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Old 10-25-2016, 04:14 PM   #41
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Personal reseach will garner you knowledge that your trusted, degree holding nutritionist might not know. Ever hear of glucogen, another hormone produced by the pancreas. It plays a role in blood sugar regulation, just as insulin does. My nutritionist, a very studious person who is always looking for trusted info, had no clue what it is, or how it works in the body. She also had no idea that baked sweet potatoes that were cooked by any other methods other than boiling are extremely high in the glycemic index, and glycemic load charts. It pays to research trustworthy sources. No one is born knowing anything. We all have to learn through research, or by the knowledge taught by others.or by personal experience.

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Old 10-26-2016, 03:24 PM   #42
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Our nutty son loves to point out that "one fact" does not mean "the other". Every once in a while, to make a point, he'll toss up a chart he finds somewhere/anywhere. He has all sorts of "sources" he knows he can rely on for a chuckle. To wit:


My favourite story along those lines was a correlation between TV antenna size and lung cancer in an asbestos mining town in Quebec.

It turned out that the people with the big antennas were the guys who worked the most overtime in the mines (so they could afford the big antennas) and thus had the most asbestos exposure.
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My nutritionist, a very studious person who is always looking for trusted info, had no clue what it is, or how it works in the body. She also had no idea that baked sweet potatoes that were cooked by any other methods other than boiling are extremely high in the glycemic index, and glycemic load charts.

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Actually while taking my history for a course, my DIL, in training as a Nutritional Dietician, did mention that very thing but it was over my head. So newer schools seem to teach a lot more. Here's another one -... when I asked my doctor some questions about certain drugs he said... and I quote... "ask your pharmacist, he's trained for that" .

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My favourite story along those lines was a correlation between TV antenna size and lung cancer in an asbestos mining town in Quebec.

It turned out that the people with the big antennas were the guys who worked the most overtime in the mines (so they could afford the big antennas) and thus had the most asbestos exposure.
Unfortunately that correlation may very well be true!!!
no, no I know it's not. don't rag on me
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I always ask the pharmacist about drugs. It's true, they are trained for that. They know more about side effects and drug interactions than most M.D.s.
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Old 10-26-2016, 05:35 PM   #45
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I always ask the pharmacist about drugs. It's true, they are trained for that. They know more about side effects and drug interactions than most M.D.s.
With electronic medical records, doctors get information about interactions and side effects as soon as they put them into the system. My doctors have computers in all of the exam and treatment rooms.
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With electronic medical records, doctors get information about interactions and side effects as soon as they put them into the system. My doctors have computers in all of the exam and treatment rooms.
We're not that up to date here. I have to beg to get my ophthalmology info sent to my GP.
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I find the pharmacists give more accurate info about whether or not to take medications with or without a meal and whether or not alcohol is okay. YMMV
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I always ask the pharmacist about drugs. It's true, they are trained for that. They know more about side effects and drug interactions than most M.D.s.
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So true.

They are also much more up to date on warnings of what drugs should be used with certain conditions.

I was prescribed a drug by my doctor that the pharmacist said my condition had a warning about.

The Doctor's office kept insisting it was fine and wouldn't be a problem until the pharmacist sent them current literature about it.

Funny how fast they changed their tune.
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We have a system that you have to agree to whereas your med info can and is shared between druggist. Some people don't like it because they think it is "Big Brother" watching over you. I like it because I really don't give a poo-poo if big brother is watching. I'd rather be warned of a conflicting med.

Not all Dr. enter everything right away - plenty of our Dr. have computer's in the exam rooms... but they are not necessarily hooked up to other Dr's - and there-in lies a problem.

Your GP gives you something for a headache, your rhumatologist an opiate for pain, your Dentist an antibiotic for an infection.... Yes, they may all ask what you are taking but some times "I'm taking high blood pressre pills" is not the same pill as other Drs know.... but your druggist does. Whether or not you go to the same pharmacy.

Except sometimes it doesn't go over provincial borders. And that's another problem... so, you, the patient... question question and question some more - you are the only one looking out for yourself.
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We have a system that you have to agree to whereas your med info can and is shared between druggist. Some people don't like it because they think it is "Big Brother" watching over you. I like it because I really don't give a poo-poo if big brother is watching. I'd rather be warned of a conflicting med.

Not all Dr. enter everything right away - plenty of our Dr. have computer's in the exam rooms... but they are not necessarily hooked up to other Dr's - and there-in lies a problem.

Your GP gives you something for a headache, your rhumatologist an opiate for pain, your Dentist an antibiotic for an infection.... Yes, they may all ask what you are taking but some times "I'm taking high blood pressre pills" is not the same pill as other Drs know.... but your druggist does. Whether or not you go to the same pharmacy.

Except sometimes it doesn't go over provincial borders. And that's another problem... so, you, the patient... question question and question some more - you are the only one looking out for yourself.
I certainly agree that patients need to be their own advocates. Since I have multiple chronic conditions and take a lot of medications, I keep an updated list of my meds, procedures, etc., and take a copy everywhere I go.

There are two major hospital systems in my area and they each have different electronic medical records (EMR) systems, so I try to use the same system as much as possible.

One time, I had appointments with two different specialists on the same day. When I went to the second doctor, they already had my weight and other vital statistics in the system. It's pretty cool
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I keep an updated list of my meds, procedures, etc., and take a copy everywhere I go.
I too keep a list of meds I take. It is on my phone under Emergency... of course the last time I needed it... I had forgotten my phone at home!
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There's nothing better than when a patient comes in with a list of their meds, dosages, how often they take it and a list of al their physicians and contact info.

Now ( in the US) we can only send prescriptions directly to the pharmacy using a program that keeps track of the meds, will alert us of prior meds ( to help prevent drug seekers) and also flag interactions.

That being said, I always tell the patient to go to their regular pharmacist and double check with them anytime they are taking something new.
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I too keep a list of meds I take. It is on my phone under Emergency... of course the last time I needed it... I had forgotten my phone at home!
This came up in another group I belong to. I don't know about the laws in Canada, but in some U.S. states, for privacy reasons, emergency personnel are not allowed to try to go into patients' electronic devices for medical, or other, information.
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GG I have no idea if we have those rules or not and I don't really care... because if I am alone and unconscious, they will go thru my purse and wallet to find out who I am - and I keep a note there to say to look on my phone for emergency numbers and notes.

So they have my permission... and if they want to be nosy and peek further, my only constraint would be to do it AFTER they have taken care of ME. So go ahead and enjoy my monotonous texts and all my pictures of food and a few of the grandkids, my geese, my dogs, my cats, my flowers... wheee how titillating!

oh.... and my phone isn't even locked - has a thumbprint thingy but I never activated it.
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Okay. I just wanted to mention it for people who do care.
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I have my medical info on my phone. I either read it off or show it to them. I wasn't really expecting anyone but my DH to be looking at it if I am unconscious or incoherent.
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I have my medical info on my phone. I either read it off or show it to them. I wasn't really expecting anyone but my DH to be looking at it if I am unconscious or incoherent.
What if he isn't with you and you're unconscious or incoherent?
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GG I have no idea if we have those rules or not and I don't really care... because if I am alone and unconscious, they will go thru my purse and wallet to find out who I am - and I keep a note there to say to look on my phone for emergency numbers and notes.

So they have my permission... and if they want to be nosy and peek further, my only constraint would be to do it AFTER they have taken care of ME. So go ahead and enjoy my monotonous texts and all my pictures of food and a few of the grandkids, my geese, my dogs, my cats, my flowers... wheee how titillating!

oh.... and my phone isn't even locked - has a thumbprint thingy but I never activated it.
Same here. I don't have all of that info about meds ( I don't take any prescriptions but allopurinol to keep my gout at bay - the rest is just supplements like red yeast rice and krill oil), but I don't care who sees my phone. I don't call or text anyone who I want to keep secret, nor do I visit any internet sites that I'm ashamed to have made public, so dig in and get bored if that turns your crank. I really don't understand the apparent paranoia that some people exhibit on this. I would much prefer that a responder accesses my contact list to let someone know I have a problem.
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What if he isn't with you and you're unconscious or incoherent?
Then they get as much info as they get from most unconscious people. I'm not just being snarky. I hadn't actually thought about this in terms of an emergency. Luckily, the only meds I take are two kinds of eye drops. I suppose a list with GP, ophthalmologist, and type and dose of eye drops would be a good idea. I'll be giving this some thought. Probably a file in Google Drive shared with Stirling. I don't really see me remembering to print it out often.

I do have Stirling listed in my phone's address book as "ICE" (In Case of Emergency).
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