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Old 06-07-2012, 12:20 PM   #1
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Chinese BBQ (Pork - Chicken - Duck)

Hi Everybody,
Its my first post here, I wasn't sure in which category should I post this.
I have a problem:
I love Chinese BBQ, I know what sauce / marinade to use to cook the meat (char siew)
But here my problem, if you go to a Chinese BBQ takeaway or restaurant, you can see they dip the meat in some dark sauce before cut the meat....
I have tried everything I can't find what's that sauce
Is anyone can help me here??? :)))
Thank you so much !!

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Old 06-07-2012, 12:30 PM   #2
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I mean also when the dish is ready; Meat / rice / pok choi....
They put that famous sauce on the dish.....
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:50 PM   #3
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Ask the restaurant.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:55 PM   #4
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Good point, Im not leaving in that place anymore, so that's why I m trying to make my own....
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:39 PM   #5
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Each restaurant has it's own sauce, it is impossible to know what they did in that particular place. Have you tried a new restaurant? Maybe they have something simular? Tell that you have allergies and need to know what is in the sauce.
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:58 PM   #6
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According to the website Rasa Malaysia, the char siu is marinated in 2/3 of the sauce recipe and basted with the remainder as it's grilled. Maybe this is what the restaurant cooks are dipping it in.

BBQ Pork Recipe (Char Siu/Char Siew/蜜汁叉烧)
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:06 PM   #7
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First thanks guys for your answers, actually I knew It was a very common sauce in Chinese BBQ restaurant, I have traveling all around the world and it looks like a traditional things...Now I'm back to France and can't find that kind of place close to my house...Here a video of what I m talking about if any luck someone know...:)
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:53 PM   #8
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Each restaurant has it's own sauce, it is impossible to know what they did in that particular place. Have you tried a new restaurant? Maybe they have something simular? Tell that you have allergies and need to know what is in the sauce.
Charlie, that is brilliant. Sneaky, but brilliant. I'm going to use your idea! Thanks!

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Old 06-07-2012, 05:48 PM   #9
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Welcome to DC, Steph. I can't help you, but I think Charlie's suggestion is brilliant. I have allergies but I haven't asked "general" question, I've asked specific ingredient questions, e.g., are there nuts in the sauce? Which nuts? Are there pine nuts in any of the dishes, could you please confirm with the chef...I'm going back to the place that has that marinated eggplant I love and try that line!!!
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:37 PM   #10
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Each restaurant has it's own sauce, it is impossible to know what they did in that particular place. Have you tried a new restaurant? Maybe they have something simular? Tell that you have allergies and need to know what is in the sauce.
I don't see any need to tell lies. I think a customer has a right to know in general terms what is in something they're purchasing. The restaurant should be willing to describe the main ingredients although expecting a complete recipe with itemized ingredients, amounts and method is unrealistic and unreasonable.

I think it's reasonable to expect to be told the main 3-4 ingredients, just because people have a right to know what they're eating. Any good restaurant should be willing to do this to keep customers satisfied.

In any restaurant I frequent I always ask a few ingredient questions before ordering food. I've always found the waiter or waitress was willing to answer my questions, or even ask the chef and return with the answer. I've sometimes kept notes and asked different questions on different visits, and eventually developed my own copycat recipes.

Restaurants are not threatened by home cooking enthusiasts. Even if you copied an item perfectly you'd still want to return to the restaurant for other good food, or when you don't feel like cooking and want it to just be served.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:32 PM   #11
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...Tell that you have allergies and need to know what is in the sauce.
Restaurants are already on to this lie. They will ask, "What are you allergic to?"
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:54 AM   #12
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This is how I do mine (I do not use food coloring)

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:31 AM   #13
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CWS, I came up with that line after fiasco with trying to figure out the eggplant recipe, after I called them.

But, I bet Andy might be right. It really depends on the owner, the dish. But hey we have to try. In fact if Andy is right then Greg's idea of simply asking for ingredients would not work, they will not tell the ingredients.
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I've always received a satisfactory answer when asking about ingredients. To be clear, I was asking about the main ingredients, not requesting a detailed full list, definitely not requesting amounts or method.
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:17 PM   #15
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well, sometimes people want more than just main ingedients.
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:57 PM   #16
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Well good luck to them. I think it's rude to expect a restaurant to give you a cookbook style version of a full recipe, and I would be embarrassed to ask.

But yet... I have heard stories of people who successfully obtained recipes. If I were a restaurateur I would describe a recipe for customers in general terms and then politely tell them the details are a trade secret.
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Went to Pizzaria Uno for dinner one day and had a dish I really liked. It was a cajun style alfredo-ish dish with andouille and shrimp. I really liked it so I wrote to the company and asked for the recipe. They sent it to me within a couple of weeks.

Note: I had asked for the recipe at the restaurant but was told they didn't have the recipe, the sauce came in a jar from the central kitchens.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:42 PM   #18
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Greg, I think you are taking this whole recipe issue too seriously. I have written to some famous French chef I've heard about on TV, well, e-mailed, for a recipe and guy responded with in few days. Cannot remember what it was, or when, it was good 10-15 years ago. In our day in age it is rude not to share the recipe, because somewhere, somehow, somebody has it and will post it on internet one way or the other. It is silly to assume for any restaurateur today that he/she/they can keep “a trade secret”. It will only push the customers away when restaurant refuses to share it. On the other hand I will be happy to go back to the restaurant that was kind enough to share it. The state and government secrets are in the open let alone some marinade eggplant. Really. By the same taken the people who come here and ask for recipes could be considered rude. Let them read what we have posted and if a recipe is not there yet let them seat and wait till one of us decides to share such recipe. I doubt there is even a single recipe today that is absolute secret, and if there is, I am sure there is a way to obtain it.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:35 PM   #19
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American Test Kitchen has a doable recipe for BBQ pork ribs that is similar to to the one in the first and second video. But we all know the problem with that site. You can get their video and write it down though without sending in for a subscription. Which is so very annoying.
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Well I do have allergies and have asked what's in a sauce. Wish I had thought to do it when I wanted to know the recipe ingredients.
I agree, home cooks can try, but rarely is a recipe exactly duplicated at home. We go to a favorite steak place for steak even tho' some pretty good steaks have come off my stove and/or grill.
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