there goes moll, mouthing off again. i think i'll send her a nasty pm.
after i do some drugs...
dave, i've heard of the dishwasher trick, and know someone who tried it. it worked, but then all of the dishes smelled kinda fishy for the next few washes.
i guess you have to make sure your dishwasher is in very good working order and drains/rinses out well.