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Old 11-01-2008, 02:20 PM   #1
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Question about a term... (mise en place)

this isn't spelled correctly, I know but phonetically it sounds like: mizen plass. I think it means "chopped in pieces of the same size." Am I on the right track?

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Old 11-01-2008, 02:24 PM   #2
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this isn't spelled correctly, I know but phonetically it sounds like: mizen plass. I think it means "chopped in pieces of the same size." Am I on the right track?

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The correct spelling is "mise en place," which means "everything in its place.

Doesn't necessarily mean chopped items. It's a way to be organized when you cook. Just have all your ingredients measured, chopped, etc. and "in place" before you begin to cook.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:34 PM   #3
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thanks Katie E! We love to watch the food channel shows, but sometimes it's hard to catch everything-(Wait , what did he say!!!!?) Thanks for the info!

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i thought it meant mees in place to eat what katie's cookin'...
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thanks Katie E! We love to watch the food channel shows, but sometimes it's hard to catch everything-(Wait , what did he say!!!!?) Thanks for the info!

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Now, next time you're watching Emeril and you see him grabbing all those small bowls with the ingredients and spices already cut and proportioned and dumping them into the pot, you'll know what it's called
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:40 PM   #6
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You guys are too much! You know how sometimes you just can't get a song out of your head? Well, that's what was going on with me for a couple of days with this phrase. Then the light-bulb came on and voila .. here i am!
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Yep - everything measured, chopped, and ready to go...it's the ONLY way to cook. It's also a great way to find out you are out of something!
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:39 AM   #8
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As someone said, Mise en Place means everything in it's place, but doesn't necesarilly mean all the chopped items. There's different stages that can all be your mise en place. First having all your equipment and ingredients you need out in front of you before starting anything is mise en place, this includes cutting boards, knives, whole pieces of food, containers to hold the food and everything. Then you do your prep, clean up, and set up your cooking mise en place - frying pans, spachulas, tongs, all the prepared food, herbs and seasonings, everything. In a professional kitchen everything is a mise en place. Your work station on the line is, everything right down to having your uniform where you want it is considered mise en place. The term isn't specific to cooking either, it can be used for having "everything in it's place" for any job you are doing. If I still had the one page essay I wrote on the term I'd post it here, but that's the jist of the term as a whole, though it's mainly thought to be by most people just having food prep'd and ready to cook.
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The ONLY way?
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:34 AM   #10
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My mise en place is having all the ingredients out on the counter to be sure I have everything but I don't measure things until I need them. I'm the only one who does dishes around here and the thought of all those little dishes to wash is not my idea of fun. I also don't think Emeril does his own prep work. He probably has a sous chef or two doing all the prep of chopping, mincing, slicing, measuring. If I had that luxury I could cook like him too!
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The ONLY way?
Not the ONLY way, but a good way.

I, on the other hand, tend to eschew the preparation of mise en place (I'm a tad on the impulsive side when it comes to cooking). Often, I haven't even read through the whole recipe yet when I start making it, and trust that I have all stuff, or substitutes that will come close and taste good.

With some exceptions, I just grab ingredients out of the cabinets or the fridge as I need them. I will often CHOP things all at once - occasionally before I start, but mostly while I'm prepping another step of the dish, to minimize downtime.

Needless to say, I sometimes have to either go to the store in the middle of cooking, or I adapt the recipe, which blows my time-management method.

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I'm like you Lee. I'll mise en place my mire poix (lol) but that's about it. There's a dis-function in my brain that keeps me from following a recipe....exactly.
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I am a firm believer in preparing ahead of time. I always read the recipe through to make sure I have all of the ingredients and that the recipe isn't one that takes 2 days to prepare like putting it in the fridge and continuing the next day. Had that happen once, ONCE. Never again. I often prepare and chop in the morning such as for beef stew. Everything ready to drop into the pot when I'm ready to cook. I hate being gone all day and having to come home and start chopping. Kills the mood.

Before I cook anything I read to see if onions, garlic, green peppers, carrots and celery for instance, will have to be sauteed together. If so, they go into the bowl or zip loc bag together, then dumped in at one time. All wet ingredients get the same treatment. Sure makes the cooking and clean up a breeze.
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My mise en place is having all the ingredients out on the counter to be sure I have everything but I don't measure things until I need them. I'm the only one who does dishes around here and the thought of all those little dishes to wash is not my idea of fun. I also don't think Emeril does his own prep work. He probably has a sous chef or two doing all the prep of chopping, mincing, slicing, measuring. If I had that luxury I could cook like him too!
Some of his shows, I'm not sure which ones because aren't they all reruns anyway (?), he would routinely call someone from behind the scenes to bring him what he was missing. He has around 4-5 people back there doing the work for him. I think it became part of his show because then they would chat a while and the person coming out would always have a headset on.

I don't have the room to have everything ready. I'm more of a grab it as I need it kind of cook.
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maybe she meant to say "the correct way?" or "The organized way?"

In a professional kitchen, it IS the ONLY way.
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Some of his shows, I'm not sure which ones because aren't they all reruns anyway (?), he would routinely call someone from behind the scenes to bring him what he was missing. He has around 4-5 people back there doing the work for him. I think it became part of his show because then they would chat a while and the person coming out would always have a headset on.

I don't have the room to have everything ready. I'm more of a grab it as I need it kind of cook.
Emeril has staff of 15 people in the kitchen preping, cooking, and seeing to it that his set is properly set up with all the utensils, cookware, bowls, etc. that he will need to do all of the dishes presented on any given show. You can see him prepare a dish on the show, but he will almost always pull one out of the oven that was prepared by his staff beforehand. This is true not only of Emeril but some of the other big name TV chefs.
That's TV.
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that's not ALL tv cooking shows or big name chefs.
i've personally seen bobby flay and martha stewart cook things through until finished, without the "magic" oven. it depends on the dish (some recipes naturally lend themselves to a fast finish), and the shows allotted time and budget.
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My mise en place is having all the ingredients out on the counter to be sure I have everything but I don't measure things until I need them. I'm the only one who does dishes around here and the thought of all those little dishes to wash is not my idea of fun. I also don't think Emeril does his own prep work. He probably has a sous chef or two doing all the prep of chopping, mincing, slicing, measuring. If I had that luxury I could cook like him too!
I would just like someone to do the cleaning up after me!
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maybe she meant to say "the correct way?" or "The organized way?"

In a professional kitchen, it IS the ONLY way.
I was just Kitchenelf.

I know it's an organized way to do things. I actually mise en place motorcycle engines. lol ....seriously.
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that's not ALL tv cooking shows or big name chefs.
i've personally seen bobby flay and martha stewart cook things through until finished, without the "magic" oven. it depends on the dish (some recipes naturally lend themselves to a fast finish), and the shows allotted time and budget.
And you can't forget Rachel Ray and her "30 minute meals!). She preps the whole meal in the "time it takes to watch this show", and her idea of mise en place is seeing how much she can pile up in her arms from the fridge, counter, cupboards! LOL!

I have to admit that when I am cooking for a catering gig I am all professional and mise en placed, but when it comes to home dinners I am often more like Ms. Ray!
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