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10-28-2015, 12:09 PM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Logan County, Colorado
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Originally Posted by roadfix
It takes a little muscle power to drive those blades into the meat. But you're right, I think it needs at least 2 passes throughout, both sides, to really make a difference.
Next week I'll try this tool on a piece of flat iron steak, one of my favorite cuts.
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The way I do it is to make a complete pass in one direction, rotate 90 degrees and go across again, then do the same on the opposite side.
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10-28-2015, 12:29 PM
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#42
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 47,414
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My tool looks like this. I can apply a fair amount of downward force with it. I just pound away covering the surface several times then turn the meat over and repeat. I use it mostly on flank steak.
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10-28-2015, 12:32 PM
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#43
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Park Drive Bar/Grill Los Angeles
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^^^ I like that design with the handle. You can 'stab' the meat with some force.
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10-28-2015, 01:01 PM
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#44
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: south central coast/California
Posts: 14,766
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfix
It takes a little muscle power to drive those blades into the meat. But you're right, I think it needs at least 2 passes throughout, both sides, to really make a difference.
Next week I'll try this tool on a piece of flat iron steak, one of my favorite cuts.
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I'm glad to hear that about flat iron steak RF as I've never done one. I wanted a flank steak but were told this Von's doesn't even stock them.
In the old days, they were quite inexpensive but even in Costco the price of them now is mind boggling.
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10-28-2015, 01:04 PM
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
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I buy flank steak at Costco as that's the best price. It comes in a two-pack. I cut one up for pepper steaks and freeze them. I either grill or stuff the other.
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10-28-2015, 03:42 PM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Logan County, Colorado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy M.
My tool looks like this. I can apply a fair amount of downward force with it. I just pound away covering the surface several times then turn the meat over and repeat. I use it mostly on flank steak.
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The Jaccard type has 48 flat blades, rather than round needles, with a sharpened, angled tip, so they cut like 48 small knives. I find it does a better job of cutting through tough connective tissue, which is after all what the tool is designed to do. You can see the blades in this photo:
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10-28-2015, 04:57 PM
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RPCookin
The Jaccard type has 48 flat blades, rather than round needles, with a sharpened, angled tip, so they cut like 48 small knives. I find it does a better job of cutting through tough connective tissue, which is after all what the tool is designed to do. You can see the blades in this photo:

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You could be tight, Rick. However, my cheapo tenderizer seems to do the job the few times a year I use it.
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10-30-2015, 01:02 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Park Drive Bar/Grill Los Angeles
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Since I do much more open grilling than smoking, I'd like to one day install a Santa Maria style grill. I've looked at a few over the past several years from self-installed drop-in kits to fully assembled stand alone units. Lot of them are good, but I've also seen some junk out there too.
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10-30-2015, 02:25 PM
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Cook
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Ventura
Posts: 76
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Originally Posted by Mario66
Hi Ross.
Beautiful process, but it must be cooked in the oven at a temperature so hot? (325°)? It is not too high? Thanks
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Thanks Mario, 325* in the oven would be right just keep track of the interior temp.
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10-30-2015, 02:53 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: south central coast/California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross in Ventura
Thanks Mario, 325* in the oven would be right just keep track of the interior temp.
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I personally don't think 325 is hot enough. I do mine in the oven at 425 degrees to get a nice crust on it. An average size is generally done to 125 degrees in 30 minutes in the oven.
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10-30-2015, 02:58 PM
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Cook
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Ventura
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelle
I personally don't think 325 is hot enough. I do mine in the oven at 425 degrees to get a nice crust on it. An average size is generally done to 125 degrees in 30 minutes in the oven.
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Kayselle, you are right on the temp.
Ross
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10-30-2015, 03:44 PM
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelle
I personally don't think 325 is hot enough. I do mine in the oven at 425 degrees to get a nice crust on it. An average size is generally done to 125 degrees in 30 minutes in the oven.
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I agree.
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10-31-2015, 12:26 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Italia
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Hi Ross, it's right check the internal temperature of the meat, but it is very important that cooking is not too violen, because the meat tends to become hard, loses all its fluids. I usually a roast or any other type of beef, do blanch in grill a few minutes to form the crust and then step in the oven at temperature from 90 to 120 °, and the meat remains tender rich in its juices. Mario
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10-31-2015, 11:10 AM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Park Drive Bar/Grill Los Angeles
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Perhaps that 325 is a mistype. Ross did his tri tip at 425 in the Egg as indicated in his initial post.
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11-04-2015, 02:12 PM
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Cook
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Ventura
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfix
Perhaps that 325 is a mistype. Ross did his tri tip at 425 in the Egg as indicated in his initial post.
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roadfix, the 325* was in the recipe that I posted but I did mine @ 425*
Ross
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11-04-2015, 02:20 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Park Drive Bar/Grill Los Angeles
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross in Ventura
roadfix, the 325* was in the recipe that I posted but I did mine @ 425*
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True, but I think posting that recipe confused a couple of people.
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11-04-2015, 03:12 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: near Montreal, Quebec
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy M.
You could be tight, Rick. However, my cheapo tenderizer seems to do the job the few times a year I use it.
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I have the same kind Andy. I used it once and haven't bothered again, since it didn't seem to make the meat more tender. If you say that it seems to do the job for you, I'll give it another try before putting in the box of stuff to donate. I'll give the meat a more thorough going over next time.
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11-04-2015, 03:22 PM
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#58
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 47,414
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxlady
I have the same kind Andy. I used it once and haven't bothered again, since it didn't seem to make the meat more tender. If you say that it seems to do the job for you, I'll give it another try before putting in the box of stuff to donate. I'll give the meat a more thorough going over next time.
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TL, don't be afraid to make a LOT of holes. I stab all over repeatedly, not just once around and done.
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11-04-2015, 03:31 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Park Drive Bar/Grill Los Angeles
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I spent close to 10 minutes stabbing my last roast which was a London Broil. Every square millimeter of that roast was punctured and it made a difference.
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11-04-2015, 05:22 PM
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#60
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southeastern Virginia
Posts: 25,104
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfix
I spent close to 10 minutes stabbing my last roast which was a London Broil. Every square millimeter of that roast was punctured and it made a difference.
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Whenever I make London broil, I score it with a knife in a diamond pattern. Works great.
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