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07-10-2007, 10:29 AM
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Senior Cook
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Federal Way, WA
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Grilling can be harmful
be harmful but here are some ways to cut the effects and allows us to eat grilled foods we love.
Marinate before grilling. It can reduce HCA formation in meat and fish by up to 99 percent. Herbs are helpful, too. Rosemary, garlic and sage may block the formation of both HCAs and PAHs in and on the food. Add the seasonings to light marinades or as ingredients to other dishes you serve with your grilled foods. A citrus or olive oil marinade can also counteract HCA buildup.
Think small. Smaller cuts spend less time over the flame than big slabs of meat. Flip them frequently, too. Turning meat over every minute greatly reduces HCAs. Use tongs to turn foods. “Puncturing meats with a fork may cause juices to flow and drip on to the coals”.
Avoid overcooking foods. The longer you grill your meat, the more the carcinogens develop.
Partner grilled items with cancer fighters. Antioxidants and other phytonutrients in fruits (apples, grapes and berries), vegetables (broccoli, kale, cauliflower, onions) and even tea can stall or stop the chemicals' effects in the body.
Jim
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07-10-2007, 10:33 AM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boston and Cape Cod
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"Cooking over high flames turns chemicals found naturally in muscle meats and fish into cancer-causing substances known as heterocyclic amines (HCAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). Both have been linked to an increased risk of several cancers, including colorectal, breast and prostate cancer."
Here is the full article
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07-10-2007, 10:52 AM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SE Pennsylvania
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Most of my grilling is indirect...one can have a very high temp in the kettle which will sear the meat and gradually reduce in temp as the cooking continues. THe meat has great flavor from the smoke and a nice finish without being charred. It also seems to be twice as juicy.
good to know about the effects of herbs and oils. Thanks
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08-23-2007, 10:15 PM
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Cook
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jminion
Flip them frequently, too. Turning meat over every minute greatly reduces HCAs.
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In other words do this to have poor-tasting meats.. :)
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08-23-2007, 10:30 PM
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Assistant Cook
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Well really anything can kill you. Too much water which is often called hyperhydration can cause hallucinations and even death. I read an article not long ago about a radio station that did a gig where you drank as much water as possible without going to the restroom so you had to hold it. One lady held on for a while but eventually felt sick and left the contest and died a few hours later in her home. Five radio employees were fired and the station was sued. No matter what there is in this world it is pretty much a fact that too much of anything is bad. As for grilling I love it and it is one of the few ways I am good at cooking so I will take it over starving and I figure I have to die someway so why not that? :)
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08-23-2007, 10:45 PM
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Head Chef
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Des Moines Iowa
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Enough all ready with the alphabet soup write in plain English some of us are not rocket scientist's and do not have the faintest notion of what your trying to say
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08-24-2007, 01:15 AM
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Chef Extraordinaire
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Location: North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgosGrill
Well really anything can kill you. Too much water which is often called hyperhydration can cause hallucinations and even death. I read an article not long ago about a radio station that did a gig where you drank as much water as possible without going to the restroom so you had to hold it. One lady held on for a while but eventually felt sick and left the contest and died a few hours later in her home. Five radio employees were fired and the station was sued. No matter what there is in this world it is pretty much a fact that too much of anything is bad. As for grilling I love it and it is one of the few ways I am good at cooking so I will take it over starving and I figure I have to die someway so why not that? :)
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Basically what she did was slowly drown. She threw her electrolytes so far off she died. This doesn't happen that often. So, like everything else, moderation is the key.
Dave - I'm with you. For MANY years I have known that eating burnt toast was bad for you - that's all I needed to know and all I can remember!
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08-24-2007, 03:05 AM
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Cook
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Hutchins
Enough all ready with the alphabet soup write in plain English some of us are not rocket scientist's and do not have the faintest notion of what your trying to say
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President Bush is that you?
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08-29-2007, 02:39 PM
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Assistant Cook
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 35
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Jim,
Way to go!!!
This thread is a great lead in to....smoking ;).
Sorry couldn't resist  .
Take care,
Brian
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08-29-2007, 02:53 PM
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Head Chef
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: usa
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Grabbing the 400 degree grill lid by mistake is harmful too.
Just ask the fingers on my right hand!
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08-29-2007, 03:31 PM
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Master Chef
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Metro New York
Posts: 8,763
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Yes, and so can crossing the street, but we don't stop doing it, do we?
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08-30-2007, 07:02 AM
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Assistant Cook
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Grabbing the 400 degree grill lid by mistake is harmful too.
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My new big green egg can get up to 750+ degrees. Found out real quick to keep my arm moving when flipping things at that temperature  .
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Yes, and so can crossing the street, but we don't stop doing it, do we?
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Great, now I have another phobia  .
Again, sorry couldn't resist.
Take care,
Brian
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08-30-2007, 10:40 AM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 3,619
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBQ'd Dude
My new big green egg can get up to 750+ degrees. Found out real quick to keep my arm moving when flipping things at that temperature  .
Great, now I have another phobia  .
Again, sorry couldn't resist.
Take care,
Brian
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Here's a dumb question, but what brand is the Big Green Egg? I know it's a really good grill but in all the pics I've seen posted here, I've never seen a name. Thanks, Terry
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08-30-2007, 10:48 AM
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Head Chef
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Down South in Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisher's Mom
Here's a dumb question, but what brand is the Big Green Egg? I know it's a really good grill but in all the pics I've seen posted here, I've never seen a name. Thanks, Terry
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The Big Green Egg is the brand. It’s a grill based on an oriental ceramic cooker design. The company was started by Ed Fisher in Atlanta, Georgia. The BGE is probably one of the most amazing grills/smokers on the planet.....and man is it expensive!
One day....yeah, maybe one day.........
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08-30-2007, 12:10 PM
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Assistant Cook
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 35
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Keltin nailed it on the head!!!
I only could affored to by a used one, I got a steal. I gt the large model, the cypress table, and teh cover. Normally that is around $12000.00 and up. Mine was used twice, got it for $350.00.
I felt guilty  .
Here is a link of it in use from my first smoke with it a month or so ago.
http://67.59.143.91/images/big-green-egg-smoker/
I use it around two times a week to grill with. I have had it around 1000 degrees. I cooked an extra thick cut porterhouse last night in....6 minutes.
Take care,
Brian
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08-30-2007, 12:13 PM
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Head Chef
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: usa
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gee whiz, you could use an Egg for foundry work almost!
Let's melt some metal while we vaporize our steak, LOLOL!
I want one. With lots of bells and whistles.
GREAT deal, Brian!
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08-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 49,091
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Nice pics, BBQ'd. Where can I get a pair of those pork pullers?
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08-30-2007, 12:17 PM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Thanks Keltin. I guess I won't be picking one up this week. And Brian, you win Bargain Hunter of the Year! How cool.
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08-30-2007, 12:31 PM
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Assistant Cook
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Where can I get a pair of those pork pullers?
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Yeah they are nice, inexpensive also.
They are called bear claws. They normally run around $10 US. However online shipping was killing me so I picked up a set at a BBQ competition I was judging at last year.
Absolutely love them.
Take care,
Brian
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08-30-2007, 12:31 PM
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Senior Cook
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Windsor, Ontario CANADA
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy M.
Nice pics, BBQ'd. Where can I get a pair of those pork pullers?
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That's the first thing that grabbed my attention too as I browsed the pics
OK, maybe not the first, that cooker is pretty darn nice!
G
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