"Discover Cooking, Discuss Life."

Go Back   Discuss Cooking - Cooking Forums > Recipes & Ingredients > Soups, Stews & Casseroles > Soups
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-17-2016, 08:18 PM   #1
Assistant Cook
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 9
ISO help w/kale soup in crock-pot

I make a "vegetarian" kale soup that has beans, diced tomatoes, onions, carrots, kale and water. I prefer to use a lot of kale but because I have been putting it on top, it doesn't "sink" so I can't use as much as I would like. I am going to try putting it on the bottom over the carrots and onions. The kale will "shrink" if I cook it first and then I can use more kale - What are your thoughts on doing this?

Also, today I made the mistake of not tearing the kale into small pieces and not being a kale lover I didn't enjoy the soup tonight! What is the easiest/best way to tear the pieces now that the soup is made?

I look forward to your thoughts on these two questions. I am somewhat of a novice cook!

musiclvr56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 10:47 PM   #2
Chef Extraordinaire
 
jennyema's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boston and Cape Cod
Posts: 10,196
Quote:
Originally Posted by musiclvr56 View Post
I make a "vegetarian" kale soup that has beans, diced tomatoes, onions, carrots, kale and water. I prefer to use a lot of kale but because I have been putting it on top, it doesn't "sink" so I can't use as much as I would like. I am going to try putting it on the bottom over the carrots and onions. The kale will "shrink" if I cook it first and then I can use more kale - What are your thoughts on doing this?

Also, today I made the mistake of not tearing the kale into small pieces and not being a kale lover I didn't enjoy the soup tonight! What is the easiest/best way to tear the pieces now that the soup is made?

I look forward to your thoughts on these two questions. I am somewhat of a novice cook!


Ok...

Ummm....why is "vegetarian" in quotes? Is it vegetarian? Or not?

Anyway, the answer to your first question (I think) is Stir! Unless you are using dried beans, the recipe you describe is a simple stovetop one where the kale just cooks in the simmering broth. Just stir to incorporate it into the soup.

Second question (I think) you probably should tear whole greens (kale, spinach, chard, etc) into smaller pieces for soup. Matter of preference....

Also, you don't love kale,don't use it!
__________________
Less is not more. More is more and more is fabulous.
jennyema is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 10:59 PM   #3
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 25,042
Kale soup-crockpot

I despise kale. But I've heard a lot about "massaging" it. That means stripping the center rib out and squishing it up between your fingers. Seems to make it more tender. Then chop it or shred it up finely, throw it in your soup, and as jennyema said, stir like crazy.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 11:03 PM   #4
Chef Extraordinaire
 
GotGarlic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southeastern Virginia
Posts: 25,349
I would just use spinach or chard. There's nothing magical about kale. If you don't like it, don't eat it.
__________________
Anyplace where people argue about food is a good place.
~ Anthony Bourdain, Parts Unknown, 2018
GotGarlic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 11:15 PM   #5
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 25,042
I agree.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 11:55 PM   #6
Chef Extraordinaire
 
msmofet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 12,166
I'm not a fan of kale either. I only use very little in a loose copy cat of Olive Garden soup. I like bitter greens like broccoli rabe, turnip greens, collard greens and mustard greens over kale.
__________________
There is freedom within, there is freedom without
Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead, many battles are lost
msmofet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2016, 12:09 AM   #7
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Cheryl J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: California
Posts: 10,088
Hi musiclvr. You don't even really have to use leafy greens, you could use chopped broccoli or asparagus.
__________________
Grandchildren fill the space in your heart you never knew was empty.
Cheryl J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 01:41 PM   #8
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Kayelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: south central coast/California
Posts: 14,766
Odd man out here I guess......I really like kale but it has to be cooked a looooong time until it's very tender. I strip the leaves from the ribs and tear into very small pieces before cooking.
Try devoting some attention to your soup by cooking it on top of the stove, rather than dumping everything together in a crock pot. Tending to food is very satisfying...honest!
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but rather by the moments that take our breath away.

Kayelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 06:15 PM   #9
Chef Extraordinaire
 
CWS4322's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rural Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 13,466
Love kale. I freeze it for 30 minutes first, massage it, and then cook until tender--about 15 minutes. The only time I like it mushy is with Pinkel (as sausage found in Northern Germany).
__________________
I've got OCD--Obsessive Chicken Disorder!
https://www.discusscooking.com/forums...les-76125.html
CWS4322 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 07:26 PM   #10
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Cheryl J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: California
Posts: 10,088
Love kale here, too. Especially in http://www.discusscooking.com/forums...ana-92039.html soup, which I'll need to make again soon. I also tear it up into little pieces.
__________________
Grandchildren fill the space in your heart you never knew was empty.
Cheryl J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 10:16 PM   #11
Chef Extraordinaire
 
jennyema's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boston and Cape Cod
Posts: 10,196
Honestly the only time I like kale is if it's totally buried in a beef stew or pot roast.
__________________
Less is not more. More is more and more is fabulous.
jennyema is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 10:45 PM   #12
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 25,042
ISO help w/kale soup in crock-pot

Don't mind kale if I can't taste it and if it's sneaked in. Plain, no thanks. I much prefer spinach or chard.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 11:22 PM   #13
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Kayelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: south central coast/California
Posts: 14,766
I need to cook kale way longer than 15 min. CWS, at least 3X that long to be tender.
Don't forget all greens are better with
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but rather by the moments that take our breath away.

Kayelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 11:29 PM   #14
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Kayelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: south central coast/California
Posts: 14,766
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheryl J View Post
Love kale here, too. Especially in http://www.discusscooking.com/forums...ana-92039.html soup, which I'll need to make again soon. I also tear it up into little pieces.
Yesssssss....my very favorite soup! As a matter of fact, it turned me onto kale a long time ago.
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but rather by the moments that take our breath away.

Kayelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 11:54 PM   #15
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Cheryl J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: California
Posts: 10,088
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelle View Post
Yesssssss....my very favorite soup! As a matter of fact, it turned me onto kale a long time ago.
Me too, Kay. I love that soup! Kale just seems to be so right for it.
__________________
Grandchildren fill the space in your heart you never knew was empty.
Cheryl J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 11:05 AM   #16
Master Chef
 
Mad Cook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: North West England
Posts: 5,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgluver View Post
I despise kale. But I've heard a lot about "massaging" it. That means stripping the center rib out and squishing it up between your fingers. Seems to make it more tender. Then chop it or shred it up finely, throw it in your soup, and as jennyema said, stir like crazy.
Join the club, Dawg and others. I can't abide kale either. Cattle food and I feel sorry for the cows! I know it's supposed to be good for you (like when we were children and anything horrid would "make you grow up to be a big, strong girl") but there are a lot of better tatsing things that ar good for you.

My favourite veg is Brussels Sprouts so you can tell I'm not faddy :-) but kale - bleuch
__________________
Don’t look for the light at the end of the tunnel. Stomp along and switch the bl**dy thing on yourself.
Mad Cook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 11:15 AM   #17
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 25,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Cook View Post
Join the club, Dawg. I can't abide kale. Cattle food and I feel sorry for the cows!

Hee hee! My dear baby brother proudly cooked up some from his garden for me a couple years ago when I visited. I politely choked down a couple teaspoons of it. This year, when I visited and was admiring his garden, his kale was all but decimated by rabbits. The plants looked more like naked Christmas trees with one or two leaves on top. I breathed a sigh of relief.

I've heard good things about kale chips. Maybe kale chips, crumbled up, might be good in the OP's soup.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 11:37 PM   #18
Chef Extraordinaire
 
CWS4322's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rural Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 13,466
This is one of my favourite kale soups:

Recipe Details

You will notice the kale only cooks for about 10 minutes. Overcooking it turns it into baby food mush, IMO.

If you handle and cook kale properly, it is very tasty. I'm guessing that most folks are like I was, I didn't know what to do with it when we first planted it in the garden. I didn't like it when I bought it in the store, but learned to like it when it was fresh from the garden and not bitter and tough. I am now stuck with buying it, so I pop it in the freezer for 30 minutes, strip it and massage it. Not as good as what we grew in the garden, but it is still good.
__________________
I've got OCD--Obsessive Chicken Disorder!
https://www.discusscooking.com/forums...les-76125.html
CWS4322 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 11:44 PM   #19
Chef Extraordinaire
 
CWS4322's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rural Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 13,466
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelle View Post
I need to cook kale way longer than 15 min. CWS, at least 3X that long to be tender.
Don't forget all greens are better with
You are getting lousy kale it takes that long to be tender. You are turning it into mush. Yuck. I have probably cooked more than 500 lb of kale and I've never had to cook it for 45 minutes. I saute it for breakfast for about 10 minutes in olive oil/bacon fat/coconut fat. 45 minutes, no way. It should be tender in 12-15 minutes or less.
__________________
I've got OCD--Obsessive Chicken Disorder!
https://www.discusscooking.com/forums...les-76125.html
CWS4322 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 11:45 PM   #20
Chef Extraordinaire
 
CWS4322's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rural Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 13,466
Love kale chips.
__________________
I've got OCD--Obsessive Chicken Disorder!
https://www.discusscooking.com/forums...les-76125.html
CWS4322 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
crockpot, kale, slow cooker, soup

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.