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03-03-2019, 12:23 PM
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Question about roux
We discussed this in another thread, but I have a very specific question, so I started a new thread. Hope that’s okay!
If I make a lot of white or blonde roux and refrigerate or freeze it, can I later bring some of it to room temp, then continue to cook it until I have a brown roux?
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03-03-2019, 12:39 PM
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Yes, no problem.
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03-03-2019, 01:58 PM
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Sounds like it should work. I wouldn't even bother bringing it to room temperature before continuing to cook it. I like this idea. I'll have to try it.
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03-04-2019, 07:26 AM
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This would be a good application for Alton Brown's oven method. You could make a large amount and control to what color you want to make it very easy.
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03-04-2019, 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GA Home Cook
This would be a good application for Alton Brown's oven method. You could make a large amount and control to what color you want to make it very easy.
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ATK has one recipe for gumbo. They don’t use traditional roux; instead they bake the flour until it’s peanut butter colored. I haven’t tried it because, frankly, I find it hard to believe one can get the rich taste of a dark roux made with butter or oil from baked flour. But here’s a link to the video should you want to try it! If you do, or if you’ve already done it, let me know how it worked!
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03-04-2019, 11:03 AM
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I made a cup of blonde roux last night and let it sit out until it cooled. Perhaps I used too much butter, or not enough flour; there’s a thin film of butter on top. I was also surprised that it turned semi-solid at room temp. Don’t know why I was surprised. Butter is semi-solid at room temp, and flour is solid. Duh!
Anyway, it’s in the fridge now; I’ll see how well it turns to a dark roux in a couple of days when I make some gumbo!
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03-04-2019, 11:33 AM
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When roux sits for a while, fat separates out and sits on top. Just pour it off and continue.
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03-04-2019, 01:24 PM
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Remember that a dark roux will not be useful as a thickener, only as a flavor enhancer.
I learned that the hard way when trying to make turkey gravy one Thanksgiving.
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03-04-2019, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelle
Remember that a dark roux will not be useful as a thickener, only as a flavor enhancer.
I learned that the hard way when trying to make turkey gravy one Thanksgiving.
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Thanks for the reminder. I’ve got some okra that helps to thicken, and (don’t tell New Orleans) I’ve been known to add potatoes to help thicken it, too.
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03-04-2019, 10:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelle
Remember that a dark roux will not be useful as a thickener, only as a flavor enhancer.
I learned that the hard way when trying to make turkey gravy one Thanksgiving.
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Sounds like the kind of error a newlywed might make. Don't ask me how I know. And don't ask about forgetting to remove the core of the apples for my first apple pie either. Well, at least I did remember to peel them.
I can hear you laughing!
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03-05-2019, 11:00 AM
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I always make more roux than required to be certain I have enough for the dish.
I always save the extra in a small container in the fridge.
When I need to thicken something I use it. Its very hard, like cold bacon grease. But works just as well on the third dish as it did for the first dish I made it for.
I make a blonde roux. but it can be darkened on the stove if needed.
I am very hesitant to start a dish by making a roux like is done when making Gumbo.
I would be afraid I made less or more than needed. So I use my roux near the end so I can adjust the effect as needed.
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03-05-2019, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roll_Bones
I always make more roux than required to be certain I have enough for the dish.
I always save the extra in a small container in the fridge.
When I need to thicken something I use it. Its very hard, like cold bacon grease. But works just as well on the third dish as it did for the first dish I made it for.
I make a blonde roux. but it can be darkened on the stove if needed.
I am very hesitant to start a dish by making a roux like is done when making Gumbo.
I would be afraid I made less or more than needed. So I use my roux near the end so I can adjust the effect as needed.
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You typically need two tablespoons of roux per cup of liquid.
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03-07-2019, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GotGarlic
You typically need two tablespoons of roux per cup of liquid.
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Thanks. The parameters will be of help.
For me its hard to gauge exactly how much liquid I will add along with liquids released from veggies, seafood or meats.
So I thicken at the end. Thanks again GG.
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03-07-2019, 12:31 PM
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One of the good things about roux is that you can make a large quantity and keep it in the fridge/freezer for a long time and just add it as needed. You don't have to make just the exact amount for a recipe.
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