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12-15-2014, 02:25 PM
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Executive Chef
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Location: Southeast US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigC
Wet wood makes the wrong kind of smoke, very heavy and acrid, IMO.
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I have quit using wet wood in my Weber charcoal and in my smoker.
I just use the dry stuff and hurry up and get the lid down.
I also heard this warning about wet wood.
Whats up all of a sudden with wet chips or chunks? It says right on the bag to soak for 30 minutes prior to using.
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12-15-2014, 02:28 PM
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#22
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Chef Extraordinaire
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Location: Park Drive Bar/Grill Los Angeles
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigC
Wet wood makes the wrong kind of smoke, very heavy and acrid, IMO.
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I use dry chunks (not chips) of wood mixed in with charcoal in my drum smoker. The dry wood chunks never get enough oxygen to ignite into flames, but will just smolder, in contact with lit coals.
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12-16-2014, 10:57 AM
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Executive Chef
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Location: Southeast US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfix
I use dry chunks (not chips) of wood mixed in with charcoal in my drum smoker. The dry wood chunks never get enough oxygen to ignite into flames, but will just smolder, in contact with lit coals.
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Until you open the lid.
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12-16-2014, 12:36 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roll_Bones
Until you open the lid. 
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By the time I open the lid the wood chunks are spent and the meat is done! 
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12-17-2014, 07:43 AM
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Sous Chef
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Pender Nebraska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfix
I use dry chunks (not chips) of wood mixed in with charcoal in my drum smoker. The dry wood chunks never get enough oxygen to ignite into flames, but will just smolder, in contact with lit coals.
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That is exactly how I do it.
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12-17-2014, 07:45 AM
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Sous Chef
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Location: Pender Nebraska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roll_Bones
Until you open the lid. 
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If your looking you aint cookin
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12-17-2014, 07:49 AM
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Master Chef
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Gotta open the lid if you're gonna mop.
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12-17-2014, 11:42 AM
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Executive Chef
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Location: Southeast US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigC
Gotta open the lid if you're gonna mop. 
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Or to turn, or add more wood, or to add more hot coals.
There are reasons for opening the lid. I try my best to keep those openings at the barest minimum.
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12-17-2014, 02:09 PM
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#29
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Master Chef
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roll_Bones
Or to turn, or add more wood, or to add more hot coals.
There are reasons for opening the lid. I try my best to keep those openings at the barest minimum.
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Don't need to open the cooking chamber or firebox lid to add splits to the Horizon. I just open the side door to the firebox.
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12-17-2014, 04:56 PM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Logan County, Colorado
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Getting back on topic....
There is one potential negative to this new grill and that is that the back of the hood has a 1½" - 2" opening the entire width of the grill. Others have said that they attached a piece of sheet metal to the hood to close that up and retain more heat. My concern is that it will allow too much smoke to escape when I'm using it as a smoker. I may have to find a solution to that issue.
If the CI smoker box turns out not to work, then I'm out $11 and it's back to the foil pouches, which are a bit more hassle, but I know from experience that they do work.
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12-19-2014, 11:14 AM
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Executive Chef
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Location: Southeast US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigC
Don't need to open the cooking chamber or firebox lid to add splits to the Horizon. I just open the side door to the firebox.
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I quit using the fire box on mine and use the cooking chamber for the food and the fire. Fire on far left, food on right.
I was using way to much wood and would not even consider wasting that much charcoal.
So, I use it like a grill and use the indirect cooking method.
I am still open to modifying my smoker to make it more efficient.
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12-19-2014, 09:12 PM
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#32
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Master Chef
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RPCookin
Getting back on topic....
There is one potential negative to this new grill and that is that the back of the hood has a 1½" - 2" opening the entire width of the grill. Others have said that they attached a piece of sheet metal to the hood to close that up and retain more heat. My concern is that it will allow too much smoke to escape when I'm using it as a smoker. I may have to find a solution to that issue.
If the CI smoker box turns out not to work, then I'm out $11 and it's back to the foil pouches, which are a bit more hassle, but I know from experience that they do work.
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I seem to remember that gas grills have to have full time ventilation per the .gov people. Keeps them from accumulating gas then going boom.
I don't believe you are required to keep it that way though... just has to be sold that way.
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12-19-2014, 10:08 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
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Location: Park Drive Bar/Grill Los Angeles
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I agree, the vents are there for safety reasons. You can seal them with foil.
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12-19-2014, 10:15 PM
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfix
I agree, the vents are there for safety reasons. You can seal them with foil.
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I've tried smoking with my gas grill and find it difficult to keep the heat low enough for a long smoke., even using only one burner turned down all the way. If I sealed up all the holes, it would be even worse.
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12-20-2014, 01:26 AM
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Executive Chef
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Location: Logan County, Colorado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy M.
I've tried smoking with my gas grill and find it difficult to keep the heat low enough for a long smoke., even using only one burner turned down all the way. If I sealed up all the holes, it would be even worse.
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I had the opposite problem with my Weber Genesis. I had to keep one burner at least medium high to keep the smoke going, but that raised the temperature too high, so I had to prop the hood up about an inch to keep the temperature down to between 220 and 250 and still put enough heat on the chips to keep them smoking. It was a constant balancing act, but I got it down pretty good. I just couldn't walk away and expect it to stay where I wanted it.
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12-20-2014, 11:08 PM
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Sous Chef
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Pender Nebraska
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Got a turkey and a ham on.
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12-21-2014, 02:43 AM
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#37
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Chef Extraordinaire
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Location: East Boston, MA
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Those look so tasty Jon. I am coming to dinner. I have my checkered napkin ready. I like the leg meat myself. I take it you made that grill yourself. I have seen many of them in Texas. Well worth the time it takes to build. For some reason, the food always taste better in the home made ones.
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12-21-2014, 07:44 AM
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Yep one of my buddies and I put it together one afternoon. Wheels and everything were there already all we had to do was cut holes, Put in cooking grate and smoke stack over the original fill hole. I wish I had a pic of my brothers. He made his out of 18inch well casing.
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12-21-2014, 08:06 AM
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#39
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: East Boston, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Farmer Jon
Yep one of my buddies and I put it together one afternoon. Wheels and everything were there already all we had to do was cut holes, Put in cooking grate and smoke stack over the original fill hole. I wish I had a pic of my brothers. He made his out of 18inch well casing.
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Get some pictures of them. Your kids will look back on them with memories.
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12-21-2014, 11:59 AM
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#40
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Executive Chef
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Location: Southeast US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Farmer Jon
Got a turkey and a ham on.
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Lookin great there Jon!
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