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Dave Hutchins 09-10-2008 11:33 PM

I consider chicken most foul, after cooking thousands of these birds I can not stand the smell or taste of chicken

Ellsworth 09-11-2008 09:04 PM

What we know that IS in the KFC Original Recipe
After four years of KFC researching with indepth insights with proof...

The following IS in the KFC Original Recipe:

This is the gospel truth folks...

1) Black Pepper

2) White Pepper

3) Garlic

4) Sage

5) Coriander

6) Mace

and the following:

1) Salt

2) MSG

3) Wheat!!

4) Milk

5) Egg(s)

Wish I had more to list but that is all I can prove right now.

Also, Marion-Kay sells chicken seasoning 99-X for 15.00 on-line...
1 cup of flour
2 1/2 TB 99X
1T Flake Salt
1/2 tsp fresh ground Tellicherry Pepper
1/4 tsp fresh ground Corriander
1/4 tsp Mace.

(thanks to MickeyD's recipe)

Hope this helps...


Ellsworth 09-17-2008 11:52 AM

Someone has this list as proof for KFC...
Someone has this list as proof for KFC:

Black Pepper
RED Chili Pepper

Celery Seed
Mustard Seed

I can confirm all these but the chili pepper (I'm still checking into it.)

It has been a great Summer for KFC lovers!

Hope this helps!


TomW 09-18-2008 04:11 PM

I disagree with someone

Originally Posted by Ellsworth (Post 686196)
Someone has this list as proof for KFC:

Black Pepper ...


The combination of white and black pepper your source mentioned has always bothered me. For the sole purpose of it's use in breading chicken, I asked this forum about it.

I think KFC chicken only uses black pepper, and white pepper, if used, does not qualify as one of the "11 herbs & spices".

I'm getting close to posting what I think is the secret ingredient. :unsure:

FWIW, I accept PayPal ... :lol:


thymeless 09-18-2008 04:59 PM

It may well be part of the KFC list.

Remember the presentation factor. Just for argument sake iIf KFC used the full amount of pepper as black pepper, the chicken might appear over-peppered to many consumers. This would be a turn-off and make people pre-concieve opinions about the taste. Also consider the secrecy factor. By making the real amount pepper disappear visually, you could throw off imitators.


LEFSElover 09-18-2008 05:29 PM

I haven't had KFC for years and years and years.
So what's so good about it?
I'm allergic to preservatives so I won't eat it anyway, so maybe MSG?
Can we get the answer to what you think the secret is TomW?
I think pepper is obvious in some fried chickens out there.
Big pepper flavor.

love2"Q" 09-18-2008 08:30 PM

i love KFC .. but i only buy the legs ..
tasty stuff though ..

Ellsworth 09-27-2008 11:58 PM

Updated what has been found...
I worked as an Asst Manager back in the early nineties
and now I long to duplicate KFC so I can cook KFC
in my own kitchen.

Been researching KFC since Mar 2004 and here is the
updated list of what we have as evidence to be:
(and yes, white pepper was one of them, Sorry Tom, lol)

1) Black Pepper
2) White Pepper
3) Garlic
4) Sage
5) Coriander
6) Mace
7) Celery Seed
8) Mace

Just three more to go!!!

After that, then we will work at the amounts for the exact taste.

Alot of people and sweat went into the above ingredients...
Alot of work...

Enjoy! :chef:

middie 09-28-2008 03:43 AM

mace is in there twice ?

LEFSElover 09-28-2008 08:38 AM

I like the looks of this, have everything except chicken parts other than boneless skinless breasts and thighs.

Willing to attempt it, but cuppla questions. I'm out of white pepper, what is mace? and why is wheat listed and what type of wheat, where in the market is this ingredient and what's if for? is it semolina flour wheat, or??? thanks, sorry not completely understanding .....

Ellsworth 09-28-2008 01:07 PM

Sorry, the second Mace should be Mustard.

I was tired last night.

Thanks for the catch!

Ellsworth 09-28-2008 01:11 PM

All I know is it has wheat in the flour.

If it's all Wheat Flour, Unbleached Wheat flour,
Wheat flour with All-Purpose flour, Wheat flour with
Cake flour? We don't know yet. But we do know
there is wheat in the flour.

Callisto in NC 09-28-2008 02:10 PM

Pepper's pepper whether it's black, white, whole, or cracked. It's still pepper and only one ingredient, not two regardless of color.

LEFSElover 09-28-2008 02:20 PM

I love lively discussions like this

Ellsworth 10-02-2008 07:31 PM

If someone, anyone! knows a good recipe that duplicates KFC,
please let me know... After four and half years of research...
I'm open for ideas... I'm old, I'm tired and I'm hungry for KFC! lol.

Here is the latest ingredients but noone has been
able to put them together to make a working KFC recipe so far
but we are getting close!!!!

1) Black Pepper (known fact)
2) White Pepper (it does count! lol) (from 99-X)
3) Garlic (from KFC)
4) Sage (from 99-X)
5) Coriander (from 99-X)
6) Mace (MickeyD's famous recipe that duplicated KFC with 99-X!)
7) Celery Seed (see KFC UK site)
8) Dry Mustard (see KFC UK site)

So that leaves only three, only three ingredients to go...
I thought I would never see this day...

Hope this helps... :smile:

Ellsworth 10-02-2008 07:40 PM

Possibilities to the KFC Recipe
Almost forgot to mention...

Here are the possibilities that could make up
9, 10 and 11 ingredients...

9) Cayenne or Chili Powder (because KFC has a bite to it, I believe
it's Cayenne but not much of it)

10) Allspice, Nutmeg or Cloves - something sweet is definitely in there,
just a hint)

11) I don't know of any for the LAST INGREDIENT...

Hope this helps... wish someone gave me these notes years ago!!!! :smile:

Chief Longwind Of The North 10-03-2008 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Callisto in NC (Post 694042)
Pepper's pepper whether it's black, white, whole, or cracked. It's still pepper and only one ingredient, not two regardless of color.

True, but different varieties of pepper have different flavor profiles. If you don't believe me, purchace multi-colored blends of whole peppercorns, crush them yourself, and taste them. I notice the difference, but my DW doesn't. The only thing she gets from peppercorns is heat.

Seeeeeeya; Goodweed of the North

LEFSElover 10-04-2008 10:11 AM

not sure if anyone read the link I hooked up to on this subject but there is a question about whether black pepper or white pepper have any difference at all. seems depending on who you are there is or isn't a difference.:huh: I wonder if I was to grind black pepper down to the powdery form that white pepper is, and tasted it blind folded, I'd know which was which?

Chief Longwind Of The North 10-04-2008 09:47 PM

I used the following tonight, just to see if I could begin to figure out the taste profile. Included in my seasoned, 1 cup of all-purpose flour were:
1 1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. ground black pepper
1/4 tsp. granulated garlic powder
1/8 tsp. granulated onion powder
1/2 tsp, ground sage
1/2 tsp. ground thyme
1 scant shake of mace powder.

Coat the skinned chicken in egg wash, then flour, then egg-wash, and again in the flour. Bump the chicken to remove excess flour and fried in 1 inch of hot oil until lightly browned. Placed on a line cookie sheet and into a 350' oven for 35 minutes. Chicken was great and very juicy with a fine flavor. But it definitely didn't taste anything like KFC. The mace, even though I used just a hint, was to dominant, and way to sweet. I don't think it's used in the original recipe for KFC. But that of course, is my opinion.

Next time, I will omit the salt and mace, and add chicken soup base to the mixture. It should come out closer.

Seeeeeeya; Goodweed of the North

buckytom 10-04-2008 10:07 PM

does anyone know what type of oil kfc uses to fry their chicken? for some reason, i get really bad aggida from kfc, even just 1 small tender let alone a whole piece. but i can eat popeye's fried chicken all day without a problem, and i think it's the type of oil.

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