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jminion 07-10-2007 10:29 AM

Grilling can be harmful
 
be harmful but here are some ways to cut the effects and allows us to eat grilled foods we love.

Marinate before grilling. It can reduce HCA formation in meat and fish by up to 99 percent. Herbs are helpful, too. Rosemary, garlic and sage may block the formation of both HCAs and PAHs in and on the food. Add the seasonings to light marinades or as ingredients to other dishes you serve with your grilled foods. A citrus or olive oil marinade can also counteract HCA buildup.

Think small. Smaller cuts spend less time over the flame than big slabs of meat. Flip them frequently, too. Turning meat over every minute greatly reduces HCAs. Use tongs to turn foods. “Puncturing meats with a fork may cause juices to flow and drip on to the coals”.

Avoid overcooking foods. The longer you grill your meat, the more the carcinogens develop.

Partner grilled items with cancer fighters. Antioxidants and other phytonutrients in fruits (apples, grapes and berries), vegetables (broccoli, kale, cauliflower, onions) and even tea can stall or stop the chemicals' effects in the body.

Jim

jennyema 07-10-2007 10:33 AM

"Cooking over high flames turns chemicals found naturally in muscle meats and fish into cancer-causing substances known as heterocyclic amines (HCAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). Both have been linked to an increased risk of several cancers, including colorectal, breast and prostate cancer."

Here is the full article

Robo410 07-10-2007 10:52 AM

Most of my grilling is indirect...one can have a very high temp in the kettle which will sear the meat and gradually reduce in temp as the cooking continues. THe meat has great flavor from the smoke and a nice finish without being charred. It also seems to be twice as juicy.

good to know about the effects of herbs and oils. Thanks

-Cp 08-23-2007 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jminion (Post 458600)
Flip them frequently, too. Turning meat over every minute greatly reduces HCAs.


In other words do this to have poor-tasting meats.. :)

ArgosGrill 08-23-2007 10:30 PM

Well really anything can kill you. Too much water which is often called hyperhydration can cause hallucinations and even death. I read an article not long ago about a radio station that did a gig where you drank as much water as possible without going to the restroom so you had to hold it. One lady held on for a while but eventually felt sick and left the contest and died a few hours later in her home. Five radio employees were fired and the station was sued. No matter what there is in this world it is pretty much a fact that too much of anything is bad. As for grilling I love it and it is one of the few ways I am good at cooking so I will take it over starving and I figure I have to die someway so why not that? :)

Dave Hutchins 08-23-2007 10:45 PM

Enough all ready with the alphabet soup write in plain English some of us are not rocket scientist's and do not have the faintest notion of what your trying to say

kitchenelf 08-24-2007 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ArgosGrill (Post 474107)
Well really anything can kill you. Too much water which is often called hyperhydration can cause hallucinations and even death. I read an article not long ago about a radio station that did a gig where you drank as much water as possible without going to the restroom so you had to hold it. One lady held on for a while but eventually felt sick and left the contest and died a few hours later in her home. Five radio employees were fired and the station was sued. No matter what there is in this world it is pretty much a fact that too much of anything is bad. As for grilling I love it and it is one of the few ways I am good at cooking so I will take it over starving and I figure I have to die someway so why not that? :)

Basically what she did was slowly drown. She threw her electrolytes so far off she died. This doesn't happen that often. So, like everything else, moderation is the key.

Dave - I'm with you. For MANY years I have known that eating burnt toast was bad for you - that's all I needed to know and all I can remember! :lol:

tropical cooker 08-24-2007 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Hutchins (Post 474114)
Enough all ready with the alphabet soup write in plain English some of us are not rocket scientist's and do not have the faintest notion of what your trying to say

President Bush is that you?

BBQ'd Dude 08-29-2007 02:39 PM

Jim,

Way to go!!!

This thread is a great lead in to....smoking ;).

Sorry couldn't resist :lol:.

Take care,

Brian

GrillingFool 08-29-2007 02:53 PM

Grabbing the 400 degree grill lid by mistake is harmful too.

Just ask the fingers on my right hand!

ChefJune 08-29-2007 03:31 PM

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Grilling can be harmful
Yes, and so can crossing the street, but we don't stop doing it, do we? :ermm:

BBQ'd Dude 08-30-2007 07:02 AM

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Grabbing the 400 degree grill lid by mistake is harmful too.
My new big green egg can get up to 750+ degrees. Found out real quick to keep my arm moving when flipping things at that temperature :lol:.

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Yes, and so can crossing the street, but we don't stop doing it, do we?
Great, now I have another phobia :rofl:.

Again, sorry couldn't resist.


Take care,

Brian

Fisher's Mom 08-30-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BBQ'd Dude (Post 476495)
My new big green egg can get up to 750+ degrees. Found out real quick to keep my arm moving when flipping things at that temperature :lol:.



Great, now I have another phobia :rofl:.

Again, sorry couldn't resist.


Take care,

Brian

Here's a dumb question, but what brand is the Big Green Egg? I know it's a really good grill but in all the pics I've seen posted here, I've never seen a name. Thanks, Terry

keltin 08-30-2007 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fisher's Mom (Post 476582)
Here's a dumb question, but what brand is the Big Green Egg? I know it's a really good grill but in all the pics I've seen posted here, I've never seen a name. Thanks, Terry

The Big Green Egg is the brand. It’s a grill based on an oriental ceramic cooker design. The company was started by Ed Fisher in Atlanta, Georgia. The BGE is probably one of the most amazing grills/smokers on the planet.....and man is it expensive!

One day....yeah, maybe one day.........:lol:

BBQ'd Dude 08-30-2007 12:10 PM

Keltin nailed it on the head!!!

I only could affored to by a used one, I got a steal. I gt the large model, the cypress table, and teh cover. Normally that is around $12000.00 and up. Mine was used twice, got it for $350.00.

I felt guilty :angel:.

Here is a link of it in use from my first smoke with it a month or so ago.

https://67.59.143.91/images/big-green-egg-smoker/

I use it around two times a week to grill with. I have had it around 1000 degrees. I cooked an extra thick cut porterhouse last night in....6 minutes.

Take care,

Brian

GrillingFool 08-30-2007 12:13 PM

gee whiz, you could use an Egg for foundry work almost!
Let's melt some metal while we vaporize our steak, LOLOL!

I want one. With lots of bells and whistles.

GREAT deal, Brian!

Andy M. 08-30-2007 12:15 PM

Nice pics, BBQ'd. Where can I get a pair of those pork pullers?

Fisher's Mom 08-30-2007 12:17 PM

Thanks Keltin. I guess I won't be picking one up this week. And Brian, you win Bargain Hunter of the Year! How cool.

BBQ'd Dude 08-30-2007 12:31 PM

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Where can I get a pair of those pork pullers?
Yeah they are nice, inexpensive also.

They are called bear claws. They normally run around $10 US. However online shipping was killing me so I picked up a set at a BBQ competition I was judging at last year.

Absolutely love them.

Take care,

Brian

gourmande 08-30-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy M. (Post 476629)
Nice pics, BBQ'd. Where can I get a pair of those pork pullers?

That's the first thing that grabbed my attention too as I browsed the pics :lol:

OK, maybe not the first, that cooker is pretty darn nice!


G

Andy M. 08-30-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BBQ'd Dude (Post 476640)
Yeah they are nice, inexpensive also.

They are called bear claws. They normally run around $10 US. However online shipping was killing me so I picked up a set at a BBQ competition I was judging at last year.

Absolutely love them.

Take care,

Brian



Thanks, 'Dude. I found them online as Bear Paws. You're right, the shipping s a killer for a low cost item. I think I'll check around here first.

keltin 08-30-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BBQ'd Dude (Post 476623)
Keltin nailed it on the head!!!

I only could affored to by a used one, I got a steal. I gt the large model, the cypress table, and the cover. Normally that is around $1200.00 and up. Mine was used twice, got it for $350.00.

I felt guilty :angel:.

You paid 350 for all of that....that’s it?!?!?! You should feel guilty. For penance that will be 6 Hail Marys, 5 Our Fathers, give.me.the.egg, 4 hours volunteering at the animal shelter, and 20 hours of community service! :rofl:

Man, I am suffering from some serious grill envy here!:mrgreen:

There was a guy at work selling a medium BGE with nest and side tables for 350 last month. He had posted it in the online classified sections on our intranet. It’s regularly $699 for just the egg and the nest and tables cost extra. I was torn since I really want the large version, but after an hour of debate, I figured a medium egg was better than no egg, so I called the guy and it was already sold!

He said he sold it in 15 minutes after posting the ad. Argh!

And those pork pullers are pretty cool. I bet they’d give Wolverine (X-Men) a run for his money in a street fight. I’ve got to get a pair!


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