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Maverick2272 01-05-2009 12:02 AM

What to pair with Delmonico or Ribeye steaks?
 
I know a red, right? But what would be a good one say from each of the following price categories:
Up to $15?
Up to $30?
Up to $60?

Or any other category you might use... LOL.

Maverick2272 01-05-2009 12:05 AM

Oh, maybe I should add that I have a cheap Shiraz (about $10 for the bottle), three bottles of Frutesia which to me are really a kind of dessert wine, and that is it right now.

kitchenelf 01-05-2009 12:56 AM

I just had a blend from your $60 range - Magnificat. It was a 1999, but, I feel sure the current vintage will be fine too.

From the $15 range I suggest Hahn Meritage. It's a Bordeaux blend that drinks like a $25 bottle of wine.

From the $30 range look for NxNW - it's a beautiful cab from California.

In the $20 range see if you can find a wine by Leo Hillinger called Zweigelt. It's a bit more acidic but I don't think you'll notice with the food. Or any Zweigelt really...Anton Bauer makes a good one too.

Me? I'd go for the Meritage or a Rhone Valley blend (Gigondas, Chateauneuf du Pape, or Cotes du Ventoux). A lot of Cotes Du Ventoux wines can be had from around $10.00 and up. Domaine Du Vieux Lazaret makes one for about $11.99 or so that is superb! Grand Veneur is another good one.

chefnaterock 01-05-2009 01:39 AM

Are we talking whole sale or retail? I guess it dosen't matter a whole lot.

If I could try all three at once and see which one was the best combo...
Marsannay (~13 whlsl. ~17-24 retail from Louis Jadot or Joseph Drouhin)
Chateauneuf-du-pape (~28 whlsl. ~35-40 retail Maison Bouachon)
or
Montes Alpha Syrah (~22? whlsl. 28-35 retail)
Franciscan Magnificat - Gotta love the 9th. Good call elf :-) (50ish whlsl. 75-100 retail)
or
Domaine Droughin Oregon Pinot Noir - AKA DDO - don't even consider saying no, it is cheap... ($33ish whlsl. $48-60 Retail: It drinks like a $100+ Burgundy)

of course in a restaurant...$????

Those would be my dream picks in that range. Sounds like a wine dinner.

Maverick2272 01-05-2009 01:48 AM

OK, so I just have to write all these down and take the list with me to the store, LOL. It is an at home dinner served with two sides: Sliced zucchini with mushrooms, garlic, hot peppers; Baked sweet potato with brown sugar, butter and cinnamon.
The wine would be for her, I am thinking I would like a nice stout ale or red irish.

chefnaterock 01-05-2009 01:57 AM

If her palate is like my wife's (better than mine) Chateauneuf would win for my wife. 13 grapes in that one. Even with the five white varietals, it will rock a del or rib, I think.

Maverick2272 01-05-2009 02:00 AM

Yes, her palate is much better than mine, LOL. Then again, I have been smoking for 22 years and she has never smoked...

chefnaterock 01-05-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick2272 (Post 762799)
Yes, her palate is much better than mine, LOL. Then again, I have been smoking for 22 years and she has never smoked...

I am five years behind smoking, but hopefully, have finally quit...18 hours ago. I know what you mean.

FincaPerlitas 01-05-2009 07:19 AM

I'd go with a good California Red Zinfandel. To me, nothing goes better with grilled or smoked meats. Some of the best reasonably priced Zins come from Renwood, Ridge and Ravenwood. I was a huge fan of Ravenswood a few years ago but less so in recent years, primarily because their cheap Vintner's Blend wines have damaged their reputation as a quality vintner. However, they still have some great, reasonably priced zins, particularly from their Russian River vineyards.

I usually try to stay around $20-$25 a bottle for my wines. It's hard to find good wine for much less than that, and there are so many good wines in the $20-$25 range that it's hard for me to justify paying more. Try the 2006 Ridge Three Valleys or the 2004 Renwood Old Vine, both priced at or under $20 from Saratoga Wine Exchange. The 2004 Ravenswood Belloni Russian River, under $25, is also a very good buy.

kitchenelf 01-05-2009 11:23 AM

Good call on the California Zin, especially now that I see there is baked sweet potato and brown sugar involved - most are so hot with alcohol that they require food and your menu suggests they might go well. The zin will stand up to the sugar.

chefnaterock, we're talking retail here as most people don't have access to wholesale prices.

In my experience there are plenty of great wines for under $20. You just have to talk to the retail person who is familiar with their inventory. But yes, around $20 - $25 you see a "personality change" in the wine that makes you sit up and take notice! Worth the money to get that kind of smile on your face!

ChefJune 01-05-2009 03:08 PM

If money is an object, (and it usually is :rolleyes:) I suggest an amazing Chilean Cabernet blend called Escudo Rojo. It is made by the same people who make the Grand Cru Mouton Rothschild in Bordeaux.

This wine costs somewhere between $10.99 and $14.99, depending upon the market. In my neck of the woods it costs $10.99, and truthfully, it drinks like it costs around $40.

Yes, you read that right.

Personally, I don't care for Chateauneuf-du-Pape with steak unless it is grilled outdoors, but I'd really rather have a Morellino di Scansano (Italian Sangiovese from the Maremma region of Tuscany) even with a grilled steak.

I'm saying that while also telling you that C-du-P is one of my all-time favorite wines. just not with chicken or steak. Besides, you are NEVER going to find a C-du-P for under $30 any more. They have been "discovered!" :sad:

chefnaterock 01-05-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kitchenelf (Post 763042)
Good call on the California Zin, especially now that I see there is baked sweet potato and brown sugar involved - most are so hot with alcohol that they require food and your menu suggests they might go well. The zin will stand up to the sugar.

chefnaterock, we're talking retail here as most people don't have access to wholesale prices.

In my experience there are plenty of great wines for under $20. You just have to talk to the retail person who is familiar with their inventory. But yes, around $20 - $25 you see a "personality change" in the wine that makes you sit up and take notice! Worth the money to get that kind of smile on your face!

Right on, retail. Obviously, that can even vary quite a bit by market and the type of operation (overhead mostly). I live in Ohio and the state minimum mark up from wh. to rt. is 50% (e.g. 10 wh = 15 min rt.)

I think you can still find some awesome wines under the $25 range, and sometimes they are better than the $35+ bottles. Burgundies for example, or Italian wines (particularly a portfolio called "Small Vineyards"). I was at a tasting with these guys recently, it blew my mind. $12-20 bottles that drink like $30-50. Welcome to Small Vineyards

ChefJune 01-05-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FincaPerlitas (Post 762857)
I'd go with a good California Red Zinfandel. To me, nothing goes better with grilled or smoked meats. Some of the best reasonably priced Zins come from Renwood, Ridge and Ravenwood. I was a huge fan of Ravenswood a few years ago but less so in recent years, primarily because their cheap Vintner's Blend wines have damaged their reputation as a quality vintner. However, they still have some great, reasonably priced zins, particularly from their Russian River vineyards.

I usually try to stay around $20-$25 a bottle for my wines. It's hard to find good wine for much less than that, and there are so many good wines in the $20-$25 range that it's hard for me to justify paying more. Try the 2006 Ridge Three Valleys or the 2004 Renwood Old Vine, both priced at or under $20 from Saratoga Wine Exchange. The 2004 Ravenswood Belloni Russian River, under $25, is also a very good buy.

Finca, if you're willing to get out of California, you can find all manner of excellent wines (robust reds are what I'm talking now) from Spain, Portugal, the South of France, Chile, and Argentina that cost under $20 and are fine drinking. It is easy, imho to find a good wine for $20 and up. I enjoy the sport of finding excellent wines for under that price. How else can one afford to have wine with dinner every day? :wink:

chefnaterock 01-05-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChefJune (Post 763336)
Finca, if you're willing to get out of California, you can find all manner of excellent wines (robust reds are what I'm talking now) from Spain, Portugal, the South of France, Chile, and Argentina that cost under $20 and are fine drinking. It is easy, imho to find a good wine for $20 and up. I enjoy the sport of finding excellent wines for under that price. How else can one afford to have wine with dinner every day? :wink:

Amen to that. And it seems that that good under $20 bottles are especially available from across the pond. In Cali., I've noticed I usually get what I pay for, and if I'm not willing to fork over $50+ for a Burgess Library or Darioush (sp?), I am not going to be too happy. I think there is a little to much manipulation (reverse osmosis, micro-ox) taking place in the cellar in Cali., not enough terrior, but that is probably another conversation.

sattie 01-05-2009 04:16 PM

HEY... I thought this was veggie week for you???

Maverick2272 01-05-2009 04:17 PM

Not this week, we are still planning it out, probably for next week!

sattie 01-05-2009 04:25 PM

Ok... just trying to keep you on track!!! LOL!

Maverick2272 01-05-2009 04:30 PM

LOL thanks for the reminder. I had to collect the recipes we wanted to try over the weekend, then plan out each meal, then collect the ingredients we would need. I figured it would be the middle of the week by the time I had it all figured out, so we just planned out some easy meals based around the sales going on for this week.

Seven S 01-05-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chefnaterock (Post 763341)
Amen to that. And it seems that that good under $20 bottles are especially available from across the pond. In Cali., I've noticed I usually get what I pay for

I had a 2005 Ghost Pines Cabernet Sauvignon Winemaker's Blend Napa/Sonoma County that I thought was quite good and paid $17 bucks, if you care to try it

chefnaterock 01-05-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven S (Post 763566)
I had a 2005 Ghost Pines Cabernet Sauvignon Winemaker's Blend Napa/Sonoma County that I thought was quite good and paid $17 bucks, if you care to try it

I think I will, I'll have to see which of my purveyors carries it. An under $20 Cal I like is Rutherford Ranch Zinfandel.


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