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Claire 04-12-2011 04:19 AM

I want to let everyone know the success story. I closed down the last line simply because I was too heart-broken to want to hear about it. I actually called Safe Haven to talk to them about returning her and spent a day in mourning (depression). All my previous dogs I got straight from the litter, this is my first shelter dog. Well, a couple of trainers called me with .. are you ready for this? ... free advice. I would have happily paid either of them, but their advice worked. The main word being that I'm not being firm enough. This seems so silly to me. I was in the service, and have a great "command voice", but guess what? I'm not using it. I got to thinking about it and it is true, my "no" sounds the same as my "yes", my "good girl" the same as my "bad girl". I also took Mom's advice and rolled up a few pages of newspaper. The good news about that is we've never had to use it. Just tapped her once (and I do mean tapped her) and just showing it to her works. She's back to doing just puppy mouthing, which I can deal with. It was just when she jumped 5' to snap at my face (I'm 5'9") she'd have to go. Well, we got that behavior to go. Yay! For our dinner party, and for the day before when computer guy came by, and the day before that when a couple of folks came by for a nightcap, and even yesterday when an impromptu guy and kid came by, she was perfectly lady-like, sitting under the table. So, happy ending.

DaveSoMD 04-12-2011 05:00 AM

Yaaaaa!!!!!!:clap::clap: We love happy-ending pet stories here! All four of the canine family members send a "good girl" to Rosebud!

babetoo 04-12-2011 03:09 PM

i am so glad to hear this. good for you. give her a hug from granny.

LPBeier 04-12-2011 03:35 PM

Claire, you just made my entire week! As Dave says we like happy ending pet stories (and people ones too of course!). I had so hoped you would be able to keep her. Violet and Joie send congratulations to Rosebud (I think they could actually take some lessons from her!) :smile:

taxlady 04-12-2011 03:48 PM

I'm soooo glad to read your good news.

Don't over use the newspaper. If you do, she will think of the newspaper as a weapon for attacking her. Then it wouldn't be a big surprise if she attacked the mail carrier or paper boy as they approach the house, "weapon" in hand.

buckytom 04-12-2011 11:37 PM

lol, taxy. good advice.

is that why i feel like attacking the guy at the mall who sells men's belts?

i'm glad to hear about the happy ending with your little lady, claire. i hope you have many many years of doggie fun with her.

lol @ a command voice. hoorah master chief woof!

PrincessFiona60 04-12-2011 11:43 PM

I am so happy for the three of you! Hooray!

Barbara L 04-13-2011 12:25 AM

I'm so glad to hear that it is all working out! :cool:

Katie H 04-13-2011 04:22 PM

How beautiful!!!! I'm so happy for everyone. Our Sadie Sue sends her best.

jacky77 04-13-2011 05:58 PM


Claire 04-16-2011 10:02 PM

No, taxlady, I don't overuse the newspaper. As a matter of fact, it touched her nose maybe 3 times. And I do mean touched. I made it very flimsy on purpose. Now, when she "mouths" me, I whack my own wrist (of the hand she has her mouth). The noise startles her enough to stop the behavior. Believe me, I could never be the type of person who thinks beating someone into submission is a way to go. But mostly showing it to her will stop her behavior. We're doing well, and she is as well.

Claire 04-22-2011 11:38 PM

I can't help but this back up, but she's had bad and good days/weeks. Yesterday she was the doggie from hell. Not really! But we had just terrible horridly windy, sleety, even snow and hail and she got adgitated and lost it all around. But we persevered. We're trying not to give in and let her sleep with us (which all our previous dogs did), since the one thing she is is perfectly crate trained. But if we hear her wihmper in her crate we're terribly tempted to take her to bed with us. She lost it potty training for a couple of times, but the main reason for that is that we haven't figured out a consistent way to get her to show us when she needs to go out.

Good weather would help a lot on all fronts. WE both love to walk, and neither mind walking in cold weather as long as it is snowy and/or dry. But we've had nothing but wet, miserable, just barely above freezing weather for weeks now. No sun. Everything is slimy and slippery and just plain miserable.

My next issue is that I feel (and husband agrees) is that her crate is too small. When we crate trained our JR we got in Hawaii, knowing we'd have to ship her to Virginia, we went to a trainer friend who taught us how to do it, and and the time the airlines industry specified that dogs had to be able to stand up, sit down, turn around, and lay down in their crates. We both feel she needs a slightly larger crate (and we know, too large isn't good either), but would like to keep her feeling secure in her own environment. She climbs in there even when we don't lock her in it, but it really is way too small for her (she can curl up in it, but really barely move in it aside from curl around in another direction)(this crate was given to us by the humane society where we adopted her, and we'd like to give it back to them at best, or keep it for a "taking her to the vet" case).

I guess I'm asking, am I better to keep using a crate I know is too small for her, but that she is familiar with, or start training her to a larger crate? I mean, now, when she sees us getting ready to go out or go to bed, she climbs into her little familiar cove. I don't want to screw with that.

Bolas De Fraile 04-23-2011 12:33 AM

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Well done claire! maybe you should put the bigger crate next to the old one and let her explore, here are some flowers for you Max picked them.
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LPBeier 04-23-2011 01:15 AM

I was thinking the same as Bolas, but with a different twist. Why not put the old crate IN the new one. After she has gone in there several times without hesitation, then remove the old one, set it next to the bigger one and see what happens. It may take a few tries, but could work.

Our Joie was crate trained and we bought him a nice comfy dog bed much like Violets (but much smaller). He wouldn't go near it so we put it inside the crate. At first he pushed it out, but then he started sleeping in it and now the bed is at the foot of ours with his crate in the closet (which remains open for him at all times). He makes his decision as to which he wants.

But the other side of the coin is that animals often prefer cramped quarters. Violet's bed appears way to small for her but she curls up in it and is quite content.

Claire 04-23-2011 06:08 AM

DaveSoMD -- what breed is that on your icon? That is what my dog looks like. When I look around on line, I get German short hair pointer, except she's way too small. Heaven help us if that's what she is! We aren't large dog people! I'm just kidding, she really has according to more than one vet, achieved her full growth (I think 15, 16 lbs), but her markings are like that. Red face & ears, freckled body. Her killer point is she looks like a gal who put too much eye-makeup on. So when she looks at you it's -- all sins are forgiven!

tinlizzie 04-23-2011 07:11 AM

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Trying out the spare cat bed for size.

Silversage 04-23-2011 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Claire (Post 992789)
She lost it potty training for a couple of times, but the main reason for that is that we haven't figured out a consistent way to get her to show us when she needs to go out.

Here's trick a trainer taught me years ago. Tie a bell to a string and hang it next to the door at a height she can reach. Every time you take her out the door, hit the bell to ring it. Don't play with it at any other times.

Eventually, she'll connect ringing the bell to going outside, and will try it herself. Just make sure you put her out EVERY time she rings the bell. Don't let her think it's a toy to play with.

DaveSoMD 04-23-2011 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Silversage (Post 992817)
Here's trick a trainer taught me years ago. Tie a bell to a string and hang it next to the door at a height she can reach. Every time you take her out the door, hit the bell to ring it. Don't play with it at any other times.

Eventually, she'll connect ringing the bell to going outside, and will try it herself. Just make sure you put her out EVERY time she rings the bell. Don't let her think it's a toy to play with.

That will take some time but it will work!! We did that and it took maybe a month or so but eventually they started to swat at the bells.


Originally Posted by Claire (Post 992802)
DaveSoMD -- what breed is that on your icon? That is what my dog looks like.

She is a Boxer and Irish Setter mix (we think). She was a rescue dog so we know definitely she it part boxer because the marking are the brindle markings of a boxer AND that is what we were told.

I am guessing setter based on the body shape and face/ears.

Kayelle 04-23-2011 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by tinlizzie (Post 992812)
Trying again for photo.

That is so durn cute lizzie.......thanks for the smile. :wink:

PrincessFiona60 04-23-2011 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by tinlizzie (Post 992812)
Trying out the spare cat bed for size.

Well, if the cats won't sleep in it! :smile:

I just buy cheap terry towels for the cats, gave up on those actual cat items they ignored.

Claire 05-16-2011 06:11 AM

Thought you might like an update. Rosebud is turning into a great pet. I still haven't had the nerve to buy her a new crate, so someone might turn me in for doggie abuse for the size of her crate (not really). The issues I thought would be problems just haven't. Her inside accidents have been so minimal as to be not a problem. I bought new kitchen rugs last week and she peed on one, the only "accident" (like THAT was an accident, I think just marking her territory)(also made me realize what a good buy the rug was! Cleaned like a dream). I need to find a bell for her, but generally she sits in front of one of us and stares us down when she needs to go out!

The next test will be when we start to air condition. We do not have central, so to keep the bedroom cool enough to sleep in we have to close the door. We usually don't run the window a/c unit downstairs at night, but that will be too hot for where we have her crate.

Our big deal has been that she wants to dig up anything I plant. Lots of chicken wire is going into this year's garden!

Because I write an occasional column for our local small town weekly paper, she's become a bit of a small-town celebrity, with people stopping me and asking how she's doing. I poured my heart out in one column about her, and got a lot of support and help.

I love it that my main mail carrier said, "So you named your dog after a sled?" Only one other person in town "got" it!

We now have our routines. I tend to wake very early (yes, insomnia). I put her out, be it 3 a.m. or 7 a.m. or any time in between. Give her a bit of love and a treat, then she runs up and jumps into bed with my husband. We live near a church that has bells that chime at 8 a.m. 6 days/wk. That's her signal to have breakfast. She watches husband dress, etc., then he feeds her. This has been a big discipline thing, and it is perfect. She has to sit while he pours her a bowl of food. Then she runs up to where I am usually sitting, reading a book, and asks for attention. Belly rubs, etc. Then a big burp, and it's time to go out and run and potty.

I cannot reinforce enough the advice given to me here and other places about walking her sorry ass off. I have a yard she can, and does, run in insanely. But the bond and discipline of walking on a leash cannot be under-estimated. We bought a no-choke collar from Orvis, and she sees it and sits and helps you put it on. Unless it is raining, she gets a minimum of one walk a day.

Hey, it keeps us on our toes as well.

Thanks for all the help with her. If I knew how to post a photo I would. She looks like a small German Short Hair Pointer.

Selkie 05-16-2011 06:39 AM

I think it's wonderful you have a shelter dog and that it's working out for you, turning Rosebud into a behaved member of your family.

I also have a shelter dog, Freckles, a special needs dog. He and seven of his littermates were dumped along the roadside when he was about 8 weeks old when I got him. He's now a little over one year old. Freckles is a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel... and he's deaf.

We have a vocabulary of nine (9) hand signals (words) that allow me to communicate any of the necessary commands and ideas we regularly encounter, and he has three words he uses to talk to me.

He's a great companion, but can still be a brat at times just as any dog can. The difference from many other dogs is that being deaf he's more visually attentive.

Anyway, my only suggestion to you is train Rosebud to have good manners. They will make her all the more pleasant to have around.

Claire 05-16-2011 01:55 PM

Selkie, I was quite surprised when I realized one of my previous dogs (a Jack Russell/Chihuahua mix) was totally deaf (old age). Simply because I didn't realize how much I use my hands when talking to my animals. I really didn't know she was deaf until something happened and I told hubby I don't think she can hear us. Nope. To some degree she was following her daughter who was responding to my calls, but then I realized that I point and wave, etc, quite a bit. Knowing that elderly dogs do lose their hearing, I'm making a point of doing it with Rosebud.

Another hint for others that I just did by accident (?) was that she started shedding like crazy. My previous animals weren't real big shedders. So I went and bought a brush for the purpose. Started by just running it over her once or twice when she jumps up on me. Then yesterday I took her out for a full body brushing. In the first two or three swipes (very gentle) she tried to nip the brush. I just let her gnaw on it a bit. By this morning, a nice, sunny, if cool, day, I picked her up (she really doesn't like to be picked up) and started brushing her. It was her second day of a full brushing and well, she's my love. I cannot believe how much brushing her calms her. So it is going to be a part of our routine for awhile. I've never had a dog or cat that really needed to be brushed, and was sure she'd hate it, and she loves it. Her hyper behavior just goes away with a little brushing. Whoa! Can it get any easier than that?

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