Advice about purchasing hydroponics system

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I would like to start growing herbs, and some food using hydroponics. I have no experience whatsoever with that. I have come across a system that looks like it is easy for a beginner like me to use. It's made in Norway, but it ships from a warehouse in Toronto, so I wouldn't have to deal with customs at all.

If anyone has experience with hydroponics, I would love to read your advice and find out what sorts of things are "gotchas". Are there things I should be looking for? Are there things I want to stay away from? Are there other places that I can buy the necessary nutrients?

Here's the company's web page:

 
No advice but I'm interested and I'll be following. I wonder if there are hydroponics growing forums out there?

Edited to add that one of our daughters bought us a little growing system thing for herbs for Christmas about 10 years ago but the herbs grew at different rates and the little pods they grew in weren't sufficient for optimal growth. We used it only once.

Edited again: I took a look at your link and that system looks high quality.
 
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That's what I thought too. It is Scandinavian and they tend to make good quality stuff. I also don't have to worry that the workers aren't being treated well.
I'm sure you get what you pay for. The pots were way larger and it looked pretty cool.
 
I can easily grow herbs without hydroponics, but I don't live in Canada. That system you linked in looks like a good way to grow herbs at home in a a climate that is cold half of the year, without using a stupid amount of electricity. I would do something like that If I lived where you live. The price looks reasonable, too. You would have to keep your herbs pruned, but that's not hard to do.

If you want fresh herbs, especially fresh basil which is so much better when fresh than dried, and doesn't over winter even down here, I would say, try it. I'd probably use it for fresh oregano, too, which is also pretty good dried. Even thyme. I don't know that I would use it for something like rosemary, since that can over winter very well down here, as can oregano, and it can get pretty big.

I think you should go for it, if you really want to grow herbs. I am not sure how it would work with something like tomatoes or peppers, which also grow pretty large.

CD
 
I’ve looked into growing herbs hydroponically too.
It irritates me that dill and other herbs are so often missing from the supermarket shelves.
From what I can remember the power, spread and light range of the lights is crucial, and being able to adjust the height of the lights to accommodate taller growth matters.
So my first thought was it that light big enough? And does it need to lift up a little higher? But it’s well reviewed and it’s certainly nicer looking than a lot of them so 🤷‍♀️

I have seen that sometimes there can be a problem with mould growing but if I remember correctly there are remedies for that, there are lots of YouTube vids on the topic I suspect you already are aware of.

The two week water reserve is the thing that really catches my eye. The reason I didn’t end up trying it is because I’m away a fair amount over the course of the year wouldn’t be able to get the system maintained. That one looks like even the dog could top it up 😂
 
I've had hydroponics in the past, and they have worked well for certain things ( and not so well for others). My best success was Basil, parsley and certain lettuces. Ive also used it to root rosemary ( with ok success) and mints ( with good success. I'd buy mint from the store to use for cooking, and the leftovers Id root and grow). I currently have an aquaponics system which is similar, just that its positioned over a fish tank, and uses the fish water as nutrients, and in return, filters out the water for the tank).

Issues ive had with growing different varieties of herbs at the same time is that their germination and growth rate are different . Basil germinated in less than a week, and parsley took a few weeks. This affects the light distribution , sine as you raise the light it for the fastest growing, tallest plant, the others suffer being a greater distance from the light . Similarly, a mature basil plant is usually a much taller plant than the parsley, so even after germination, the basil will dictate light position . Even if you prune it too keep it shorter, it will promote a bushy plant , shading out and competing for space over its neighboring plant.

Another thing is the pods are close together , so one will shade out the other plants. Some times Ill just plant in every other pod to avoid crowding.

Issues Ive had with dill was that the plant and fronds are so delicate, sometimes the dryness in the winter ( or indoors) causes them to dehydrate easily.

It will take a few months from planting to harvest ( depending on the plant).

Should one plant or cell be harvested or die off, cant really start another one until they all die due to light positioning/ distance and being crowded out.

As the plants grow, they require more and more water ( obviously), but what may be watering once a week turns into at least once a day, so just need to keep up on it so they dont dry out.

As the plants get bigger , so does their root system, so need to watch that the roots dont clog up the pump and prevent the water from flowing .

Cats love these things, so. if you have a cat, keep them away from it.

Things like the tomatoes and peppers will require pollinating ( even if they say the variety is self pollinating, still need to help it out). And even the miniature varieties tend to get sloppy and more difficult to contain.

Issues Ive had with going lettuce , is it takes a few months to mature just to get a few salads out of it. Herbs are more practical since you're only using a little bit at a time ( in most cases).

All this being said, the one in your link, there are fewer pods that are larger and more spaced out, so crowding may less of an issue.

Also, this uses the coco fiber as a growth medium, which may be subject to fungus gnats ( which could e annoying but, ut not the end of the world)
 
I've had hydroponics in the past, and they have worked well for certain things ( and not so well for others). My best success was Basil, parsley and certain lettuces. Ive also used it to root rosemary ( with ok success) and mints ( with good success. I'd buy mint from the store to use for cooking, and the leftovers Id root and grow). I currently have an aquaponics system which is similar, just that its positioned over a fish tank, and uses the fish water as nutrients, and in return, filters out the water for the tank).

Issues ive had with growing different varieties of herbs at the same time is that their germination and growth rate are different . Basil germinated in less than a week, and parsley took a few weeks. This affects the light distribution , sine as you raise the light it for the fastest growing, tallest plant, the others suffer being a greater distance from the light . Similarly, a mature basil plant is usually a much taller plant than the parsley, so even after germination, the basil will dictate light position . Even if you prune it too keep it shorter, it will promote a bushy plant , shading out and competing for space over its neighboring plant.

Another thing is the pods are close together , so one will shade out the other plants. Some times Ill just plant in every other pod to avoid crowding.

Issues Ive had with dill was that the plant and fronds are so delicate, sometimes the dryness in the winter ( or indoors) causes them to dehydrate easily.

It will take a few months from planting to harvest ( depending on the plant).

Should one plant or cell be harvested or die off, cant really start another one until they all die due to light positioning/ distance and being crowded out.

As the plants grow, they require more and more water ( obviously), but what may be watering once a week turns into at least once a day, so just need to keep up on it so they dont dry out.

As the plants get bigger , so does their root system, so need to watch that the roots dont clog up the pump and prevent the water from flowing .

Cats love these things, so. if you have a cat, keep them away from it.

Things like the tomatoes and peppers will require pollinating ( even if they say the variety is self pollinating, still need to help it out). And even the miniature varieties tend to get sloppy and more difficult to contain.

Issues Ive had with going lettuce , is it takes a few months to mature just to get a few salads out of it. Herbs are more practical since you're only using a little bit at a time ( in most cases).

All this being said, the one in your link, there are fewer pods that are larger and more spaced out, so crowding may less of an issue.

Also, this uses the coco fiber as a growth medium, which may be subject to fungus gnats ( which could e annoying but, ut not the end of the world)
Those sound like logical points. I had thought about the fact that you have to adjust the light for the tallest plant and then the shorties get less light.

How easy or hard is it to run your aquaponics system? What kind of fish do you have in your system?
 
Fish?
Granted fish nutrients do provide everything a plant needs to flourish.
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The only fish that I think would do well, or I should say survive in less than ideal conditions in a small system of roots, would be a Beta. But you could only use one. And then you would still need to do water changes.
 
I have a few goldfish. I get the feeder fish that are inexpensive. No more difficult than having a regular fresh water tank. Ive had fish last for a few years and others for a few weeks
 
i wanted something like that years ago and was told it was expensive to run and maintain. you can buy herbs cheaper.
 
I was thinking about it when I brought the goldfish in from the horse watering tanks. At the time I had too many other things going on and the fish tank was in the unheated front porch.
LOL one year I thought the fish looked a little sluggish and quickly discovered a thin coat of ice on top of the water! Found the water heater which took care of that within a couple of hours and fish started acting normal. Don't think I could have grown any there! LOL.
Would love to get another tank with goldfish but have absolutely no place for them here. Been thinking of trying to convince my son to try. They have a perfect spot for a tank. 😏😏
He wants to try hydroponics but I'm not too sure on the fish part. 🤭😉
 
i wanted something like that years ago and was told it was expensive to run and maintain. you can buy herbs cheaper.
You can buy herbs cheaper if you have a reliable source of herbs nearby. I can't always get the fresh herbs I want. If I get them well ahead of time, they might go off before I get to using them. I figure this will probably about break even, but the hobby aspect is worth something and so is not losing them in the fridge or having them die when they come in a pot and I try to keep them going.
 
You can buy herbs cheaper if you have a reliable source of herbs nearby. I can't always get the fresh herbs I want. If I get them well ahead of time, they might go off before I get to using them. I figure this will probably about break even, but the hobby aspect is worth something and so is not losing them in the fridge or having them die when they come in a pot and I try to keep them going.
And the time spent driving to the store, and fuel...and nothing better than trimming the exact amount of fresh herbs you want when you need them. And the pleasure of looking at their beauty and caring for them...
 
i wanted something like that years ago and was told it was expensive to run and maintain. you can buy herbs cheaper.

I'm fortunate that I can harvest fresh herbs all year around from my herb garden, except for basil. But, I grow that in a pot, so I can move it in and out as weather demands. I can get a good three years out of rosemary and thyme in the garden, and the oregano is almost impossible to get rid of. Even in a pot, I need to start each Spring with a new basil plant. That just seems to be its natural life span.

CD
 
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