Healthy Pizza Restaurants?

[dcSaute]

from their web site:
Domino's thin crust
Contains
Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Soybean Oil, Salt, Calcium Propionate (Preservative), Dextrose, Leavening (Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Calcium Lactate), Corn Starch, Yeast, L-Cysteine Monohydrochloride (Dough Conditioner).

home done
contains:
King Arthur Baking flour contains no bleach, no bromate, and no artificial preservatives of any kind.
water
yeast
salt - maybe
olive oil - maybe

there's nothing inherently 'unhealthy' about carbohydrates, and
pizza isn't really famous for being non-fattening healthy dish.

your best bet may be a non-wheat crust (?)
from

How Many Carbs In A 12-Inch Cauliflower Pizza Crust? - Chef's Resource

How Many Carbs In A 12-Inch Cauliflower Pizza Crust? The Definitive Guide A 12-inch cauliflower pizza crust typically contains between ... Read moreHow Many Carbs In A 12-Inch Cauliflower Pizza Crust?

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A 12-inch cauliflower pizza crust typically contains between 20 to 40 grams of net carbohydrates, depending on the specific brand and ingredients used. This range is significantly lower than traditional wheat-based crusts, making it a popular alternative for those following low-carb or gluten-free diets.

 

[Cooking4Fun]

I prefer a thin crust pizza, and with that, you get a somewhat lower carb pizza. Most of the fat in a pizza comes from the toppings, so just avoid fatty toppings. Pizza sauce is mostly just tomato sauce, so that should not make much difference.

CD

Oil in dough or on pan aren't unhealthy fats?

 

[Linda0818]

The only way to know for certain if a particular pizzeria works with ingredients that one approves of is to just ask them. And even then you may not get a straightforward answer.

I mean, pizza is pizza, pretty much everywhere, with a few exceptions. Right? Wouldn't most people agree?

 

[Kathleen]

Oil in dough or on pan aren't unhealthy fats?

I think it would matter which oils/fats were used.

 

[pictonguy]

I think it would matter which oils/fats were used.

That's true some oils are more healthful than others in a biochemical context. Again though I have to mention that what is healthy is determined on an individual basis.

If I have commercial pizza once a week, say 2 big slices, a single large commercial slice is typically 260–350 calories with 9–18 g of fat depending on whether it's just tomato cheese or a meat lovers, now keep in mind this is just in the general sense.

So that's around 500-700 calories and 18-36 g's of fat and the fat in commercial is mostly soy and canola which is probably not what we want to eat for health but when we consider context and dosage, does it really matter?

Weekly total calories to maintain weight for a male for example ranges from 15,000 to 22,000 depending on a persons size and activity per week and consuming a diet that is basically 30% protein and eating mostly a whole food diet those 2 slices represent from 2-4% of total weekly calories and the fat contributes 3-6%. Insignificant really.

It's why when we hear something is healthy or not healthy we're talking a narrative from a profession that really doesn't have the foggiest idea for the most part what is healthy or not. Take your own health into your own hands and try and figure it out, your body will pay you back with a few more years of being able to move and enjoy life more fully. Of course I qualify this post by saying this is just my opinion and your data may vary.

TLDR: eat some commercial pizza.

 

[taxlady]

Talk about a profession that doesn't have the foggiest, I had a nutritionist when I was pregnant. She kept trying to get me to eat white Italian bread. "You must eat some food you enjoy." She simply wouldn't believe me that I actually prefer the taste of whole grain breads. There were other things I considered absurd, but that's the one that stuck in my memory.

 

[caseydog]

Talk about a profession that doesn't have the foggiest, I had a nutritionist when I was pregnant. She kept trying to get me to eat white Italian bread. "You must eat some food you enjoy." She simply wouldn't believe me that I actually prefer the taste of whole grain breads. There were other things I considered absurd, but that's the one that stuck in my memory.

We have an outstanding Neapolitan pizzeria in Frisco. Two big Italian made wood fired pizza ovens and all. Find a pizzeria like that, which I am sure you can find in any substantial sized city (Frisco has 220,000 people), and you will get a good, and relatively healthy pizza, but it won't be the cheapest pizza in town.

Frisco – Pizzeria Testa

pizzeriatesta.com

CD

 

[Meryl]

Pizza making is a real form of art! It's not just about throwing flour and water together, much, much more than that.

Art of Neapolitan ‘Pizzaiuolo’ - UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage

The art of the Neapolitan ‘Pizzaiuolo’ is a culinary practice comprising four different phases relating to the preparation of the dough and its baking in a wood-fired oven, involving a rotatory movement by the baker. The element originates in Naples, the capital of the Campania Region, where...

ich.unesco.org

 

[Kathleen]

That's true some oils are more healthful than others in a biochemical context. Again though I have to mention that what is healthy is determined on an individual basis.

As I have always said.

TLDR: eat some commercial pizza.

No way! I have an excellent pizza-chef right here in house - with a wood burning pizza oven!

Talk about a profession that doesn't have the foggiest, I had a nutritionist when I was pregnant. She kept trying to get me to eat white Italian bread. "You must eat some food you enjoy." She simply wouldn't believe me that I actually prefer the taste of whole grain breads. There were other things I considered absurd, but that's the one that stuck in my memory.

This does not surprise me one bit. Plus, even the most health-minded professionals may be basing their opinions on research that is considered "the latest" but is still 15 years out of date.

 

[pictonguy]

No way! I have an excellent pizza-chef right here in house - with a wood burning pizza oven!


This does not surprise me one bit. Plus, even the most health-minded professionals may be basing their opinions on research that is considered "the latest" but is still 15 years out of date.

Nothing like a wood burning pizza oven at home and someone making pizza for you.

Dietary guidance in most countries is primarily consensus driven. Consensus in this context is not a group of experts agreeing on a fully proven model. It’s experts agreeing on the least‑controversial, most defensible position given and that consensus is built on a mix of older observational data, mechanistic reasoning, political negotiation, and only a limited amount of modern randomized evidence and because of this, committees often default to “best available interpretation” rather than “strong causal evidence” which results in simple public messaging, that to some scientific biochemists that study human nutrition, almost criminal.

The proof is in the pudding and all we have to do is look at the state of health in the US, Canada the UK etc to see there's something fundamentally wrong with that messaging. Just my opinion which is also shared by many in the health field.

 

[Sir_Loin_of_Beef]

Are there any pizzerias that focus on healthy pizzas? Healthy oil, low sugar, lower carb crust? The type of pizza that won't increase anyone's cholesterol?

Now what fun would that be?

 

[Sir_Loin_of_Beef]

Consensus in this context is not a group of experts agreeing on a fully proven model. It’s experts agreeing on the least‑controversial, most defensible position given and that consensus is built on a mix of older observational data, mechanistic reasoning, political negotiation, and only a limited amount of modern randomized evidence and because of this, committees often default to “best available interpretation” rather than “strong causal evidence” which results in simple public messaging, that to some scientific biochemists that study human nutrition, almost criminal.

Do you know the fefinition of EXPERT?

X is an unknown quanity. A spurt is a drip, under pressure. Therefore, an expert is an unknown drip under pressure.

 

[pictonguy]

You don't say

 

[dragnlaw]

@pictonguy your synopsis is perfect. Just knowing that the breaking news data we suddenly receuve is about 15 years old and based on consensus is a lot of hogwash. Of course there's some truth but it isn't half as bad as they always seem to make out.... then 15 year later they change the story.

This might not be the same category but it is how science works. Witness the decree to get rid of all your wood cutting boards they harbour germs! At the time I said bullsh... so does all those cuts in plastic. 15 years later, oopsie yes, plastic boards harbour germs too.

so I always take the latest trends and agree they may have some truth to it - but not all of it and certainly not for everyone!

 

[Kathleen]

It's why each person needs to do what is right for him/her while working with their personal medical team. Failing having a medical team, I have no issue with people driving forward with their own research and results. Just as long as they are informed.

There is a reason that I left research years ago.

 

[Jusa]

Moderation in all things!

 

[pictonguy]

Moderation in all things!

This is me being scientific so please don't take this personally.

"Everything in Moderation" isn't a scientific principal, it's a public health slogan and it survives because it's simple, non controversial and easy to communicate and not because it reflects on how human metabolism actually works.

There is no biochemical threshold, metabolic model or clinical guideline that defines what "moderate" sugar is or what "moderate" saturated fat, alcohol or processed food would be. different foods have different metabolic effects and different people have different physiological responses and a single umbrella term can't capture that. Basically It’s a communication strategy, not a scientific model. The slogan "balanced diet" lives in that same realm. Again just my opinion folks.

 

[Jusa]

I'm just stating what works for me.

 

[Linda0818]

We have to moderate alcohol???

 

[caseydog]

“I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.”​

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