BAPyessir6
Sous Chef
Question first, then long discussion point! How do pan sauces not split/stay emulsified if they're just water and fat? Vinaigrette doesn't really stay together, but a heavily reduced meat stock mounted with butter (or cream) at the end will remain emulsified. As will berre blanc.
To my knowledge, a gravy, bechamel, or veloute has a basic component structure of fat, flour/thickener, and water/water based liquid/milk/stock etc. This makes sense to me as flour or starch (or emulsifier like egg yolk in hollandaise) acts as a binder/suspender, holding the fat in the water.
A pan sauce on the other hand, generally has just salt/water (in the form of stock, fond, pan drippings), some sort of acid (wine, beer to deglaze etc) and then some sort of fat. (Cold butter. . .why cold? Or cream, other dairy, etc.)
Was at a church friend's house for supper and he made his world famous gravy. (Is it actually gravy if it doesn't have a starch?) Basically pot roast (beef) drippings and fond, a bottle of white wine (Chardonnay) and like 2 qt. cream at the end. It was good, peppery, albeit kind of sweet from all the white wine. Though I am, as I've said before, sensitive to alcoholic components, as I don't drink.
How do sauces like this stay stable? Is it because you get to an almost "au sec" point in the pan before adding the dairy? I know cream is actually very hard to break the emulsion of, but what about butter?
Could you mount or finish a pan sauce with milk or a lower fat dairy? Or is the fat/specific temperature somehow essential to the emulsion, like in beurre blanc? Would getting the pan too hot break a basic pan sauce as well, as it would for beurre blanc?
I'm probably rambling, but I'm curious how/why pan sauces don't need a stabilizer/emulsifier. Like I intuitively know that they work, but I don't understand the how.
To my knowledge, a gravy, bechamel, or veloute has a basic component structure of fat, flour/thickener, and water/water based liquid/milk/stock etc. This makes sense to me as flour or starch (or emulsifier like egg yolk in hollandaise) acts as a binder/suspender, holding the fat in the water.
A pan sauce on the other hand, generally has just salt/water (in the form of stock, fond, pan drippings), some sort of acid (wine, beer to deglaze etc) and then some sort of fat. (Cold butter. . .why cold? Or cream, other dairy, etc.)
Was at a church friend's house for supper and he made his world famous gravy. (Is it actually gravy if it doesn't have a starch?) Basically pot roast (beef) drippings and fond, a bottle of white wine (Chardonnay) and like 2 qt. cream at the end. It was good, peppery, albeit kind of sweet from all the white wine. Though I am, as I've said before, sensitive to alcoholic components, as I don't drink.
How do sauces like this stay stable? Is it because you get to an almost "au sec" point in the pan before adding the dairy? I know cream is actually very hard to break the emulsion of, but what about butter?
Could you mount or finish a pan sauce with milk or a lower fat dairy? Or is the fat/specific temperature somehow essential to the emulsion, like in beurre blanc? Would getting the pan too hot break a basic pan sauce as well, as it would for beurre blanc?
I'm probably rambling, but I'm curious how/why pan sauces don't need a stabilizer/emulsifier. Like I intuitively know that they work, but I don't understand the how.