Microplastics

[dragnlaw]

I think most people have OCD - about at least one thing and probably more... 90% of the people don't even know that it is OCD it is just something that they do.
eg. I get out of my car and put my keys in my pocket (or purse pocket), turn around to press the 'lock' key and touch my pocket or look at my purse pocket as I do so, press the lock and touch my pocket/purse again before I close the door. The times I don't put them in a pocket I will be holding them in my hand and still have to look at my hand several times before actually shutting the door. Sad I know.

I think I mentioned I drove for Budget Car Rental at one time, plus taking cars to FL for snowbirds. Heaven forbid you ever lock yourself out. Just CANNOT be allowed to happen! LOL

Once when daughter was visiting, parked the car when we got home. I got out and was 3 steps away from the car - and I distinctly heard the lock and the door slam. I literally screeched at her "YOU KNOW I DON'T LOCK THE CAR!" She said "oops, Sorry! I leaned on the door getting out and didn't notice."
My reply was "Well sorry doesn't cut it when the keys are still in the car!" She was lucky the second fob was in the house.

 

[Badjak]

We just get a street kid.
They open the locked car in about 30 seconds (don't ask how I know)

 

[dragnlaw]

I'm pretty sure that they didn't even test bamboo in the study done at UC Davis.

hmm, somehow I missed your post taxy.
IIRC But whoever did the study was saying how bamboo had the most anti-bacterial properties - but purportedly slowly loses that quality just as other woods.
Made bamboo very popular amongst those that only read headlines!

 

[dcSaute]

as I recall, the 'problem' with bamboo is not the bamboo itself - the strips are glued together with an epoxy, and it's the epoxy that is 'very hard' on the knife.

 

[CharlieD]

get an end grain wood board. the size, front to back, should be 1.5 times the longest knife you use.
wood has been used for literally centuries - it is _the_ proven approach.
get/use a metal hone. keeps your knives sharp long time . . .

use a jig type sharpening system ala EdgePro/et. al.

that gear will last you 20-30 years. you'll save lot$ of money doing it right, at the outset.

Thank you. I used to make knives. Still have 2 or 3, the ones I made some 40 years ago. So, I do know how to sharpen knives, even without a fixture, just a wet stone.
But i will get wood cutting boards to replace the plastic ones I have.

 

[CharlieD]

My reply was "Well sorry doesn't cut it when the keys are still in the car!" She was lucky the second fob was in the house.

Now, that we are way off topic, I have a car key story, that rivals yours, well, not that there is a riflery. We were on vacation in Florida. My mother and I stop by to say our goodbyes, while my father was remain in the car, car was running, air-conditioned was on, so he doesn't suffocate. We come back 5 minutes later, he is outside smoking, right next to the car. I'm trying to get into the car, car is locked. "do you have the key"- I asked. "No, I don't" comes the answer. He got out of the car and locked the door, all while car was running. All I can say, good thing it was before 9/11 and before Corona. We were so late for the flight they already closed the door of the plane, they re-opened it for us.

 

[taxlady]

as I recall, the 'problem' with bamboo is not the bamboo itself - the strips are glued together with an epoxy, and it's the epoxy that is 'very hard' on the knife.

Yeah, I didn't mention the epoxy, because I didn't remember for sure which type of glue is used.

The bamboo cutting boards are hard on knives because those boards are made by gluing a bunch of thin slats of bamboo together to make the board and the glue is very hard.

 

[dragnlaw]

So they use a different epoxy for different woods? Doesn't make too much sense.

on another note - I rather think the whole thing is a case of overthinking a simple fact.
Has anyone heard a timeframe of how long it takes a knife to get dull with the use of various boards? Years? Months? Weeks? Days? Hours?
Look at professional butchers... have you ever watched them? They hone their knives constantly while carving up meat.
Why? because the knife hits the Maple chopping block? or the blade slides along the bone? Or both!

 

[dragnlaw]

Off subject .. almost. World Butcher's Challenge 2025 in Paris, France has a member of the Canadian team a local butcher near me.
I'm very excited for him but it is difficult. Many countries sponsor their entries but Canada is not. They come from across Canada and must pay their own way, not only to France next year but even here to get together and practice their trade. I've never seen a contest ever and have absolutely no idea what it entails but am looking forward to it.
I believe they first went to one in the States a couple of years ago but as they were brand new to the game and unknown didn't place very well.
I should drop in and ask what they prefer to "chop" their meats on ... and why!

 

[taxlady]

So they use a different epoxy for different woods? Doesn't make too much sense.

on another note - I rather think the whole thing is a case of overthinking a simple fact.
Has anyone heard a timeframe of how long it takes a knife to get dull with the use of various boards? Years? Months? Weeks? Days? Hours?
Look at professional butchers... have you ever watched them? They hone their knives constantly while carving up meat.
Why? because the knife hits the Maple chopping block? or the blade slides along the bone? Or both!

Why do you ask about different epoxies? Is it because even some wooden cutting boards are made of slats of wood that get glued together? Those slats are usually an inch wide or wider. That would be gentler on knives, even if they were to use the exact same epoxy as is used for bamboo. The bamboo cutting boards are usually made of wafer thin strips of bamboo, so there is proportionately far more epoxy with most bamboo. I can feel the difference, if I cut something on a bamboo cutting board.

 

[caseydog]

I think most people have OCD - about at least one thing and probably more... 90% of the people don't even know that it is OCD it is just something that they do.
eg. I get out of my car and put my keys in my pocket (or purse pocket), turn around to press the 'lock' key and touch my pocket or look at my purse pocket as I do so, press the lock and touch my pocket/purse again before I close the door. The times I don't put them in a pocket I will be holding them in my hand and still have to look at my hand several times before actually shutting the door. Sad I know.

I think I mentioned I drove for Budget Car Rental at one time, plus taking cars to FL for snowbirds. Heaven forbid you ever lock yourself out. Just CANNOT be allowed to happen! LOL

Once when daughter was visiting, parked the car when we got home. I got out and was 3 steps away from the car - and I distinctly heard the lock and the door slam. I literally screeched at her "YOU KNOW I DON'T LOCK THE CAR!" She said "oops, Sorry! I leaned on the door getting out and didn't notice."
My reply was "Well sorry doesn't cut it when the keys are still in the car!" She was lucky the second fob was in the house.

My current car has one of those "smart" keys. It never leaves my pocket. I reach for the door handle, and it unlocks. I press a button, and the car starts. Supposedly, I can open the tailgate with my foot, if my hands are full. I've never gotten that to work. My sister's Volvo has that same feature, and she's never been able to get it to work, either.

I have washed a few key fobs. Well, the fob to my MINI Cooper, twice. I stuck it in a bowl of rice for a couple days, and it kept working.

DOH!!!


CD

 

[dragnlaw]

ahhh casey, must be nice to afford newer cars. I bought this van new too and it was very nice. But sorry, my van is 2015, doesn't have a sensor to tell if I'm close, gate needs to be reached with human hands to pull it down to close (amusing to watch someone looking for the button to shut it), side doors only open and shut with human hands as well, doors only unlocks if I push the unlock button on the fob.

 

[dragnlaw]

Why do you ask about different epoxies? Is it because even some wooden cutting boards are made of slats of wood that get glued together? Those slats are usually an inch wide or wider. That would be gentler on knives, even if they were to use the exact same epoxy as is used for bamboo. The bamboo cutting boards are usually made of wafer thin strips of bamboo, so there is proportionately far more epoxy with most bamboo. I can feel the difference, if I cut something on a bamboo cutting board.

I ask because all my boards are glued together and although I haven't gotten out a ruler to measure the 'slats' on my little bamboo ones, they are at least an inch wide. Probably even wider than the ones on the maple one, or at least the same width. The maple one seems to be the hardest wood just from the feel of it. IMHO
As you (and others) seem to have been citing that it is the bamboo boards that had the epoxy that was hard on knives I thought maybe it was because it was a different type of epoxy.

 

[Badjak]

My wooden boards are one piece of wood. No glue or epoxy.
Except for my bamboo one and that one is falling apart

 

[taxlady]

It might be that they have come up with better ways to make bamboo cutting boards since I bought some. I don't think it would be possible to make a cutting board out of a single piece of bamboo, like some wooden cutting boards. I believe they are now using end grain pieces for the higher quality bamboo cutting boards. But, using end grain would seriously limit the size of the individual pieces.

 

[dragnlaw]

those small bamboo cutting boards I have are used for practically every thing - my go to quick grab, serving platter, cheese platter, lunch plate, hot plate, chopping onions, vegies, garlic, slicing meats.
As such they are constantly being washed. They must be at least 5 years old and are still in great condition. Got them at the Dollar $tore!

 

[dcSaute]

"Has anyone heard a timeframe of how long it takes a knife to get dull with the use of various boards? Years? Months? Weeks? Days? Hours?"

glass: one cut
epoxy glued: 10-20 cuts
the recently touted titanium: half a cut.....

using hadwood boards I check and sharpen, as needed, twice a year - keeping in mind I use the hone just about every time a knife comes out of the block....

 

[caseydog]

ahhh casey, must be nice to afford newer cars. I bought this van new too and it was very nice. But sorry, my van is 2015, doesn't have a sensor to tell if I'm close, gate needs to be reached with human hands to pull it down to close (amusing to watch someone looking for the button to shut it), side doors only open and shut with human hands as well, doors only unlocks if I push the unlock button on the fob.

My Audi is a 2016 model, so it's only one year newer than your van. I didn't buy it new. I don't buy new cars anymore. I look for low mileage cars that are a couple years old, so somebody else already took the biggest depreciation hit. My current Audi was a Certified Pre-Owned car, so It came with a 3-year warranty.

I take very good care of my cars. Granted, North Texas climate helps... nothing rusts here. But, if I am not driving my car, it is parked in my garage.

CD

 

[jennyema]

Glass cutting boards will ruin your knives in very short order