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It looks like Walmart still sells frozen orange juice, for whatever that's worth.
 
Concentrated frozen orange juice.
I have a lovely orange cheesecake recipe that was flavoured using that stuff and I would dearly like to have that cheesecake again.
Unfortunately I have made many attempts to recreate it using other sources of orange but it's just not the same.
Wow, that's a shame. I have a partial can in my freezer for that kind of use.

It's also sort of odd because shipping frozen, concentrated o.j. means that you are shipping a lot less water.

You mentioned trying to make it yourself. Do you know anyone who has a freeze dryer? I would guess one could stop the machine before it was actually dry. I imagine that one could leave an open container of o.j. in the freezer and wait for enough water to sublimate. But, by then, the o.j. would probably have picked up some odours that one didn't want.
 
Wow, that's a shame. I have a partial can in my freezer for that kind of use.

It's also sort of odd because shipping frozen, concentrated o.j. means that you are shipping a lot less water.

You mentioned trying to make it yourself. Do you know anyone who has a freeze dryer? I would guess one could stop the machine before it was actually dry. I imagine that one could leave an open container of o.j. in the freezer and wait for enough water to sublimate. But, by then, the o.j. would probably have picked up some odours that one didn't want.
Citrus is sensitive to processing and its flavour is easily lost or altered in a way that makes it unpalatable.
The zesty freshness evaporates into the air which is why the clever bods who figured out how to make FCOJ (frozen concentrated orange juice) also had to work out how to capture the smell and zesty flavour that evaporates and add it back in at the end.

They concentrate it in a vacuum because the evaporation can then take place at much lower temperatures, helps protect the flavour of the OJ which would be wrecked at higher temps.

I don't know anyone with a freeze dryer but it's and interesting idea. I suppose I could buy some freeze dried oranges and grind them up, see what flavour that yielded.
I recently bought some orange zest powder, I was thinking perhaps the flavour of some normal OJ could be bolstered with it 🤷‍♀️
 
Check out these pictures of retro TV dinner in my album. Some even have soup "Complete 3 course meals". LOL

Here's one that blows me away that I don't remember at all - salisbury steak dinner with soup????

(picture quality is terrible, but you can clearly see the soup in the tray)
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Wow I didn’t know we don’t have frozen orange juice anymore. I used to make them for my kids growing up.
I wasn't aware of that either. But then I haven't looked for it in years. My mom used to make it for us all the time when we were kids and I remember buying it a couple of times myself.
 
I checked a couple of grocery stores online, here in Montreal. Both Voilà and Métro seem to have frozen, concentrated orange juice.

My local Kroger, Walmart and HEB stores all have frozen orange juice, but only store brands. None of them have the old Minute Maid frozen OJ I grew up drinking.

CD
 
When looking up some info, I found this, that mentions Minute Maid...

Frozen concentrated orange juice has largely disappeared from grocery store shelves due to declining consumer demand, shifting preferences toward "not-from-concentrate" refrigerated juice, and high production costs driven by inflation and citrus greening disease. Major brands like Minute Maid are discontinuing these products as shoppers prioritize convenience and perceived freshness over frozen, processed options.
 
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A few years ago I read about how the not-from-concentrate orange juice is produced. That doesn't really sound fresher or better to me than from frozen concentrate.

Clarification​

After extraction, the pulpy juice (about 50% of the fruit) is clarified by primary finishers that separate juice from pulp. The finishing process is a mechanical separation method based on sieving. The juice stream is further clarified by centrifugation. The pulp stream, containing pieces of ruptured juice sacs and segment walls, may then go to pulp recovery or to pulp washing.

Frozen concentrated orange juice (FCOJ) production​

From the buffer/blending tanks and after clarification, the juice goes to the evaporator. Within the evaporator circuit, the juice is first pre-heated and held at pasteurization temperature. It then passes through the evaporation stages of the process, where it is concentrated up to 66 °Brix. During the evaporation process, volatile flavour components flash off and can be recovered in an essence recovery unit.

Juice concentrate is cooled and blended with other production batches as required to level out fluctuations in quality. It then goes to frozen storage in tanks or drums as FCOJ, sometimes for several years.

Not-from-concentrate juice (NFC) production​

An alternative to concentrate production is to process the juice at single strength as an NFC product. Clarified juice is pasteurized before storage. Deoiling may be required to reduce oil levels in the juice, and deaeration to remove oxygen is part of good practice.

NFC is stored in bulk either frozen or in aseptic conditions. Storage may be up to a year because while consumption is year-round, production is seasonal.
From https://orangebook.tetrapak.com/chapter/fruit-processing
 
A few years ago I read about how the not-from-concentrate orange juice is produced. That doesn't really sound fresher or better to me than from frozen concentrate.


From https://orangebook.tetrapak.com/chapter/fruit-processing

I've known for years that NFC juice is not the same as fresh juice. And, that it is often stored for long times frozen, just not in concentrated form. Florida's Natural brand used to have commercials that seemed to indicate that a bunch of orange growers fresh squeezed oranges from their groves into bottles, and sent it to grocery stores to be sold to us.

Not true. As you posted, Taxy, it is an industrial product, made from a blend of oranges from multiple countries (to maintain a consistent flavor), and is not fresh.

I like the Simply Orange brand, because I like the flavor of it. I know it is not fresh OJ, and how it is made, but it tastes good.

I liked the frozen concentrated OJ I grew up on, too. But, bottled NFC juice is easier, which I assume is why demand is down, and it is going away.

CD
 
@In A Pickle
You could try just dehydrated (not freeze dried) orange slices, then reconstitute the flesh part, or the peel part or both and see what flavors you'd like to keep. I was pleasantly surprised how good the slices are thrown in a drink or tea, hot or cold. I dried them at about 95 deg F for a longer time, they kept their flavor and color. If they are dried hotter they lose their nice color and start browning a little.

From dry, I can leave them whole slices, or put them into my spice/coffee grinder and make a powder. I keep this on my spice cabinet in a jar, for frozen desserts, for a nice citrus 'zing'. (I do lemons, limes, and oranges.)
Once they are dry, they can be used for more than a year without refrigeration.

I noticed that frozen orange concentrated orange juice about doubled in price from less than $2 to almost $4. I use a tablespoon of it in whole wheat bread. It takes the bitterness off the wheat. This was recommended by the Baking Book by King Arthur. It works and I use it all the time.
 
Here's one that blows me away that I don't remember at all - salisbury steak dinner with soup????

(picture quality is terrible, but you can clearly see the soup in the tray)
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Hard pass. I grew up eating wayyy too many Salisbury Steak dinners and don't ever want to see one again.

On the other hand, I loved sliced cow tongue lunch meat that was encased in gelatin to fill out a uniform shape. After the mid-80s, that vanished from existence for some reason, except from a handful of local, old time butcher stores, where you can now only find it chopped and mixed as souse, which is just not the same.
 
Hard pass. I grew up eating wayyy too many Salisbury Steak dinners and don't ever want to see one again.

On the other hand, I loved sliced cow tongue lunch meat that was encased in gelatin to fill out a uniform shape. After the mid-80s, that vanished from existence for some reason, except from a handful of local, old time butcher stores, where you can now only find it chopped and mixed as souse, which is just not the same.
Well that sent me down a rabbit hole. I grew up eating beef tongue and really liked it. My mum would cook it for supper and then the leftovers became cold cuts. I cooked a pig's tongue once, but I didn't know you had to peel it while it was hot. I peeled some of it and it was very uncomfortable. I left the rest to cool and my cat, Musmus snacked on it. What I could rescue, was virtually impossible to peel. I just had to cut off too much meat while cutting off the skin. Haven't tried cooking it since. It's not something you see at most grocery stores.

I found a recipe posted by someone who grew up in Finland eating tongue. Somehow that reminded me of something else that most people in North America don't really like, head cheese. I loved the "sylte" that my mum made. I have tried buying head cheese here a couple of times, but I didn't like it.
 
My brother loved Head Cheese, as did my mom, dad, grandmother. I don't remember anyone else liking it but that's not to say they didn't.

I did NOT like it.
I don't remember why I didn't like it - but at the time was most probably because I knew what it was made from rather than the taste.
 
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