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Yeah, I've kind of been following this for a while, its very convert and I've read that Covid 19 acted as a catalyst moving the technology from it's niche dynamic modeling into mainstream algorithmic personalization, it was like putting a turbocharger on a piston engine. Basically another tool for the transfer of wealth. Thankfully I don't shop for groceries online, just the odd ingredient periodically and probably never will.
 
Yeah, I've kind of been following this for a while, its very convert and I've read that Covid 19 acted as a catalyst moving the technology from it's niche dynamic modeling into mainstream algorithmic personalization, it was like putting a turbocharger on a piston engine. Basically another tool for the transfer of wealth. Thankfully I don't shop for groceries online, just the odd ingredient periodically and probably never will.

Yeah, I don't shop for groceries online, either. I like to pick my own meat and produce, so why not all the rest. Plus, if something scans wrong in the store, I can call it out, and get it fixed.

CD
 
Yeah, I don't shop for groceries online, either. I like to pick my own meat and produce, so why not all the rest. Plus, if something scans wrong in the store, I can call it out, and get it fixed.

CD
Yeah, but this technology has been adapted by other business models as well from airline tickets and uber to who knows what, maybe financial as well. It's a labyrinth and a corn maze combined...lol.
 
Yeah, but this technology has been adapted by other business models as well from airline tickets and uber to who knows what, maybe financial as well.

I kind of have the airline pricing scheme figured out. Uber is a crap shoot. I've ridden from my house to the airport for as low as 35 bucks, and as high as $140. Same distance, but the expensive trip was when storms cancelled hundreds of flights late at night, and people were scrambling to get to hotels. Never pass up an opportunity to kick a man when he's down.

CD
 
I'll watch this later, but I've been following this as well. Make this as one more reason why I don't use grocery delivery services. Maybe there's a way to sign up or create an alter online profile of yourself so you don't get hosed with this BS.
 
Shop for ANYTHING on line, as it’s primarily being used for bigger ticket items rather than groceries. But it’s moving into the grocery space, too. Instacart grocery shopping was in the NYT today: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/09/...gorithmic-pricing.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

And, it’s been happening for quite awhile now.

“Imagine this: a family member has died, and attending their funeral is very important to you. Somehow — you don’t know how — the airlines know this about you, so when you go to buy a ticket they jack up their prices, forcing you to pay more for the same flight than other people.

This is an example of what’s being called “surveillance pricing” — basically, using data and knowledge about consumers to treat us differently from other customers and squeeze more money out of us… If these strategies are allowed to succeed, it’s likely that companies will adopt them not just in aviation but across a variety of markets, from telecommunications to grocery stores.

Privacy advocates have long warned of related uses of personal data including targeted advertising, pricediscrimination, consumer disempowerment, profiling, and digital redlining. In 2012 it was not a new concept when I wrote that “big data”

accentuates the information asymmetries of big companies over other economic actors and allows for people to be manipulated. If a store can gain insight into just how badly I want to buy something, just how much I can afford to pay for it, just how knowledgeable I am about the marketplace, or the best way to scare me into buying it, it can extract the maximum profit from me.
Later that same year, an investigation by the Wall Street Journal found that prices quoted by online retailers like Staples and Home Depot changed based on who the customer was — with people living in higher-income areas generally getting the best deals.

But today, the threat is being talked about — and actualized — more than ever. The president of Delta Airlines told an investor conference in December that his company was planning “a full reengineering of how we price,” that the company’s technology could determine “the amount people are willing to pay for the premium products related to the base fares,” and that eventually, “we will have a price that’s available on that flight, on that time, to you, the individual.”
 
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I have been tempted to use InstaCart on occasion, but never actually used them. I do buy most of my groceries online, but I buy them from a few grocery chains that do their own delivery and Lufa Farms, who also do their own delivery.

I am wary of how much data companies that we shop from and companies that aggregate our data and sell it. That's part of why I use FireFox as my browser and DuckDuckGo as my default search engine.
 

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