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Actually, southerners don't agree on what's true cornbread. Is it sweet, or not?

I like sweet cornbread, while I know some people who call that "corncake." Jalapeño cornbread is popular in North Texas, but I'm not a big fan.

I'm like a lot of people down here, I'm okay with Jiffy corn muffin mix. I make mine from scratch because cornbread is really easy to make, and I always have the ingredients in my pantry, but I don't look down my nose at people who make it from that blue and white box. Homemade is better, but not night-and-day better.

CD
I agree Jiffy's not bad.
The recipe I use is a sweeter cornbread that f\calls for cooking it in a CI skillet. I adapted it to large muffin tins so I could freeze them individually for easy breakfast muffins or for a chili side dish.
 
I agree Jiffy's not bad.
The recipe I use is a sweeter cornbread that f\calls for cooking it in a CI skillet. I adapted it to large muffin tins so I could freeze them individually for easy breakfast muffins or for a chili side dish.

I agree Jiffy's not bad.
The recipe I use is a sweeter cornbread that f\calls for cooking it in a CI skillet. I adapted it to large muffin tins so I could freeze them individually for easy breakfast muffins or for a chili side dish.

I've baked my cornbread in a few different pans, but my favorite is my 1920's era Griswold #8 cast iron pan. I'm sure it is all in my head, but it tastes better. ;)

CD
 
Blissful's recipe doesn't have any water in it.
For 4 cups of dried beans I put in 1 cup diced onion, 3/4 cup diced peppers, 4 mince garlic cloves and
3/4 cup molasses
1/2 cup honey (or similar amount of sugar)
3/4 cup of ketchup
3 T vinegar
2 t worcestershire sauce
1 t salt (optional)
2 t hot sauce (optional)
and I like a few tablespoons of dijon mustard in it too.
If you use a lesser amount of beans, use less of the sauce ingredients.

You have to use some kind of liquid to cook dried beans, whether it's water, broth, stock, beer, etc. Beans absorb water when they cook, besides all the water they have absorbed while soaking.

Frankly, I don't know how Bliss's recipe works. If it works for her as posted above, i.e. no additional liquid, that's great, but every other recipe I've found from sites I trust, calls for added liquid of some kind so that the beans would have liquid to absorb. I've used dried Great Northerns in other types of recipes and they ALL have called for what you would think is excess liquid because the beans absorb some and some evaporates away while cooking.

I suspect you either got a bag of old beans that would need pressure cooking to soften, or the long, under temperature cooking they were subjected to somehow caused the skin to harden so the beans couldn't absorb liquid.

Oh, and you certainly don't add cornstarch while beans are cooking regardless. Doing that thickens the liquid too much and they are never going to absorb it.

All those extra sugary things that were added didn't help much either. The extra sugars probably hardened the skin even more.

This kind of reminds me of when my friend's husband, who really didn't cook, decided to make chili while she was at work. He followed her slow and low cooking recipe, with lots of liquid at the start, but tasted it shortly after it started cooking and felt it didn't have enough kick or salt, so added more salt and more chile powder. Did that a couple more times, then decided it was good. By the time it finished cooking a couple of hours later, it was inedible because of the salt and spice...
 
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Eye Fillet with Roast Potatoes, Broccoli and Sesame Szechuan Sauce 🫠

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You have to use some kind of liquid to cook dried beans, whether it's water, broth, stock, beer, etc. Beans absorb water when they cook, besides all the water they have absorbed while soaking.

Frankly, I don't know how Bliss's recipe works. If it works for her as posted above, i.e. no additional liquid, that's great, but every other recipe I've found from sites I trust, calls for added liquid of some kind so that the beans would have liquid to absorb. I've used dried Great Northerns in other types of recipes and they ALL have called for what you would think is excess liquid because the beans absorb some and some evaporates away while cooking.

I suspect you either got a bag of old beans that would need pressure cooking to soften, or the long, under temperature cooking they were subjected to somehow caused the skin to harden so the beans couldn't absorb liquid.

Oh, and you certainly don't add cornstarch while beans are cooking regardless. Doing that thickens the liquid too much and they are never going to absorb it.

All those extra sugary things that were added didn't help much either. The extra sugars probably hardened the skin even more.

This kind of reminds me of when my friend's husband, who really didn't cook, decided to make chili while she was at work. He followed her slow and low cooking recipe, with lots of liquid at the start, but tasted it shortly after it started cooking and felt it didn't have enough kick or salt, so added more salt and more chile powder. Did that a couple more times, then decided it was good. By the time it finished cooking a couple of hours later, it was inedible because of the salt and spice...
Those beans didn't absorb ANY water! I added the cornstarch after 9 hours of cooking when I was desperate. Next time, if I make baked beans again, I want to actually bake them.
 
@medtran49 The recipe I use, we cook the beans first in lots of water, drain, then make the sauce and bake them 40 minutes at 350 deg F.
@rodentraiser were the beans soft?
I know there are lots of ways to make them, I don't have a recipe for baking/pressure cooking/stove cooking/crockpot them from dry in water+sauce ingredients.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and not writing out the whole recipe for you. I thought since you were already cooking them in liquid, it would work, but you weren't satisfied with the taste, so I posted what was in my sauce so you could compare what you had added already.
 
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@medtran49 The recipe I use, we cook the beans first in lots of water, drain, then make the sauce and bake them 40 minutes at 350 deg F.
@rodentraiser were the beans soft?
I know there are lots of ways to make them, I don't have a recipe for baking/pressure cooking/stove cooking/crockpot them from dry in water+sauce ingredients.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and not writing out the whole recipe for you. I thought since you were already cooking them in liquid, it would work, but you weren't satisfied with the taste, so I posted what was in my sauce so you could compare what you had added already.
I knew something wasn't right. Yeah, I saw precooking the beans in water or stock in a couple of recipes.
 
Do you mind sharing the recipe for Sesame Szechuan Sauce? If you do post the recipe, please let us know in this thread and put the recipe here, so it's easier to find later.:

Sure.
I will post it in my favourite sub-forum! (So much fascinating information there)
 
@caseydog - yes, we call it the eye fillet in Australia.
We have had some discussions here about what it would be called in the States - some have suggested it is one side of the T-bone and the other is called a strip steak.
Next time I buy one I will take a photo before I cut it into the steaks so there can be further debate 🤣
Filet Mignon would be correct too, I suppose but down here a filet Mignon is more associated with a dish rather than a cut.
I developed the sauce in the restaurant because I was looking for something more delicate than the traditional pepper sauce we all know. 🫠
 
@medtran49 The recipe I use, we cook the beans first in lots of water, drain, then make the sauce and bake them 40 minutes at 350 deg
@rodentraiser were the beans soft?
I know there are lots of ways to make them, I don't have a recipe for baking/pressure cooking/stove cooking/crockpot them from dry in water+sauce ingredients.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and not writing out the whole recipe for you. I thought since you were already cooking them in liquid, it would work, but you weren't satisfied with the taste, so I posted what was in my sauce so you could compare what you had added already.
The beans never got soft. Plus, I never felt the 'sauce' "attached" itself to either the beans or the hot dogs. When I use the Van Camp beans, I make a sauce out of the liquid in the can, brown sugar, BBQ sauce, plus put in onions, garlic, etc., and if you taste a mouthful from the crock pot, the whole thing comes together and is delicious.

I never really had any "sauce" with these beans. It was like I had beans and hot dogs in water. I think the beans should have been baked and also, next time I won't make a recipe that doesn't have reviews. I should have known better.
 
@rodentraiser I'm sorry they didn't come together and sorry that my suggestions didn't help either. At least you tried! Did you starve?

That batch of beans may be too old to cook without a pressure cooker. If you have more of them, don't use them right now. If you test a recipe, buy some new beans and if they have a 'packed on' date, make sure it isn't more than a year old.
In my recipe, the beans are cooked in lots of water (stove or pressure cooker or Instant Pot), when they are soft, creamy, they are drained. Then they are mixed with sauce (and you could add hotdogs or sliced sausage), put them in a casserole and bake them.
 

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