Then use the country name to make your point...as in Japanese or Japan. Not "JAPS". :roll:
wboggs said:Yea since the Japanese forced the US to quit making self destructing junk vehicles; they now have to compete with quality vehicles. US didn’t make quality vehicles till they were forced to and even at that it took them a long time to come around. Does the US build quality vehicles today? Well IMO as the personality continues to the best of their ability and still compete; good enough but they are still beat by the Japanese. And I seriously doubt there's one for one 200,000 mile story.Bobberqer said:Do they build good cars.. sure they do...but, for every 200,000 miles Japanese car story that is tossed around, the is an equivelant, US manufactured car story...
Bobberqer said:My last 2 cars Jeep, Mercury Sable, both had over 250,000 miles on em before being totaled in cars wrecks, ( not my fault) present car, 96 Ford Windstar, 215,00 miles... just to make a point..
CarolinaQue said:I will say that I currently drive a '91 Toyota Pick-up (217,000 miles). It just had it's first major repair's done to it. New Head cast, valve job, and a new timing system (gears, chain, guides, tensioner).
I love the truck, but in all honesty, it can't handle the pull load that I need it to because of it's age. The guy that had it before me didn't take care of it like it should have been.
I started looking at new one's, But I'll be damned if I can afford $28,000 for a new, "mid-sized" Tacoma. Much less the $36,000 to $40,000 for a new "full-sized" Tundra.
Why buy new you ask? Because I want to know that I was the one that put every mile on that vehicle and know that all the routine maintenance was done on time and with the right stuff. Not just with what "works".
Turns out that my neighbor's good friend works at the Ford dealership.
He has a new, fully loaded F-150 XLT with the Towing Package that he'll sell me for $19,000.
Hmmm, wonder which way I'm leaning?
Don't get me wrong, I love Toyota trucks, but the price of one is out of my range and I feel that Ford does make a very solid full sized truck. Sometimes you just have to go where the deal's are.
Car's, on the other hand are a totally different story. I think that our foreign counter parts have that market locked as far as quality.
Tim
Larry Wolfe said:Unfortunately I think this post is taking a wrong turn by some of the comments I'm seeing. Let's not get this thread locked. Voice your opinion, but don't live in the past.
Kloset BBQR said:[quote="Larry Wolfe":37xqxi24]Unfortunately I think this post is taking a wrong turn by some of the comments I'm seeing. Let's not get this thread locked. Voice your opinion, but don't live in the past.
Chuckwagoncook said:Larry Wolfe said:Chuckwagoncook said:[quote="Larry Wolfe":35fke5lg]You guys obviously haven't heard about the new KID in town! Nothing but Toyotas in this driveway! And yes before any naysayers, this new Tundra is indeed a true FULL size truck that outranks any truck in it's class!
Anyone have the popcorn emoticon available????
Sorry Larry, I aint bustin on your Toyotas, but you say they make a true fullsize truck? Do you have a new tundra that I could hook my 35' tandem dual 20,000# GVWR trailer too, I have a load of logs I need to haul half way across the state. If Im really nice I will try not to overload the trailer with about 30,000# of Hardwood....
My wife has been looking at the Nissan so called fullsized, it may be her college graduation gift... Biggest reason she is looking at Nissan is for the fact that her brother is a Master Nissan mechanic.
I didn't want to hijack Bubbas thread, but I just want to defend CW's post about hooking this and that up!
Hey CW I specifically said "in it's class". In otherwords put a comparable Ford/Chevy/Dodge/Nissan toe to toe with the new Tundra and then lets compare. Click Toyota Comparison it will clear up any misconception of peoples thoughts of whether the new Tundra is a true full size truck or not! [smilie=a_goodjobson.gif]
Bobberqer said:if 53 is young , then I'm happy for you to say so... as my daughter calls me an old fart...
Mazda did not even start making cars until 1960.... they started out as a cork factory. they did not come back into the US market until the 70's, same time Honda did..
Toyota and Nissan did so bad in the early 60's they actually retreanched back to Japan and thought of not entering the US car market again for at least 10 years
Izuzu came here mid 60's and flopped.. can't be any more polite than that
Subaru didn't get here until 1969
Mitsubishi didnt enter the US car market until 1971..and they built the Dodge Colt.. which I believe was , by that time, owned by Chrysler..
and the waiting lines ??? must of been very few of them, since imports of Japanese cars in the 60's were typically less than a 1,000 a year for each of em...
and back then, Japanese made,,more times than not, meant Cheap Imitation...
And when they did resurface, they all got accused of "dumping".. a term that means selling their cars for less than what they are actually made for... But they would never do that, would they ?..
That's all I have to say on the subject of " Whose Car is better"....
Enjoy all your Wheels!!!! Happy Smoking !!!!
I'm going to start the smoker to do a rolled pork loin yum, yum good