What IS cooked?

[dragnlaw]

I like grapes, raw, dried or even fermented.

OK, well... especially fermented!

 

[The Ghan]

Hot alone? That does not mean it is cooked.

Exactly

 

[FrankZ]

I like grapes, raw, dried or even fermented.

OK, well... especially fermented!

Explains so much

 

[grumpyoldman]

kathleen its not so much the science thats in question its more about the term " cooked " and its practical application and that need much more refining
next i do not nor have i ever considered myself a "professional " cook
i did own a BBQ joint and i did cook steaks for a campground for two summers as a favor for a friend ( i never take money for a favor i do for my friends ever !! ) and as far as my BBQ joint, i smoked meat and a few side dishes nothing complicated about any of it,
although i did make money doing that
the whole point to all this is to use common old horse sense as to what is "cooked " or not, "science" be damned !!! it has nothing to do with it
but common sense does

 

[pictonguy]

Words have meanings, change the meanings, then clarity breaks down, pretty simple really.

 

[Kathleen]

Words have meanings, change the meanings, then clarity breaks down, pretty simple really.

That is pretty much what I was taught. Words have actual meanings. While language is fluid and meanings can change over time within a society's social constructs, an arbitrary shift without context makes no sense: Common, horse, or otherwise.

Not to be difficult here, but I think going forward I will continue to stick with common dictionary definitions and realize that some questions are not seeking clarity or conversation based on actual meaning. I've not ever done this before, but I'm tapping out of this conversation.

 

[grumpyoldman]

pictonguy . thats the problem here, the word cooked has no clarity, science give's a definition thats in conflict with common sense
the science definition can give one definition, but like many words there is often more than one definition. all of them being correct

 

[pictonguy]

My goose is "cooked" in the context of this topic. Hope you find clarity.

 

[dragnlaw]

like many words there is often more than one definition. all of them being correct

So you've just answered the whole thread.

All of the answers are correct in one for or another... I believe it is called:-
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·

se·man·tics
/səˈman(t)iks/

1. the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. There are a number of branches and subbranches of semantics, including formal semantics, which studies the logical aspects of meaning, such as sense, reference, implication, and logical form, lexical semantics, which studies word meanings and word relations, and conceptual semantics, which studies the cognitive structure of meaning.
   • the meaning of a word, phrase, sentence, or text.
     plural noun: semantics
     "such quibbling over semantics may seem petty stuff"

So I think this conversation has been all said and finished.

 

[In A Pickle]

I stuck my hand on an exposed grill element when I was a kid.
It sizzled and when I retrieved my hand (pretty sharpish) I stuck it straight in my mouth (no I do not know why I did that rather than run to a tap, shock probably), it was black and tasted a bit like charred pork.
It defo tasted both burned and cooked.

 

[pacanis]

it was black and tasted a bit like charred pork.

So people taste like pork?
Not that I've ever wondered.

 

[In A Pickle]

So people taste like pork?
Not that I've ever wondered.

Pork ish but also not pork at the same time, I dunno it’s hard to explain
Maybe vegans taste different?!

 

[taxlady]

Pork ish but also not pork at the same time, I dunno it’s hard to explain
Maybe vegans taste different?!

Well, they smell different to a bear and other carnivores.

 

[The Ghan]

Hmmm can't say really, never got close enough to a vegan to smell them ...

 

[In A Pickle]

Hmmm can't say really, never got close enough to a vegan to smell them ...

Perhaps you wouldn’t know, perhaps they don’t smell like pig