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Old 02-25-2006, 05:33 PM   #11
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We don't use any non-stick just in case...
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Old 02-25-2006, 10:47 PM   #12
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Following is an extract from the EPA's website. It addresses PFOA in the environment and it's relaitonship to teflon. I posted the link at the end of the extract in case you want to read more.


Are there steps that consumers can take to reduce their exposure to PFOA?

At present, there are no steps that EPA recommends that consumers take to reduce exposures to PFOA because the sources of PFOA in the environment and the pathways by which people are exposed are not known. Given the scientific uncertainties, EPA has not yet made a determination as to whether PFOA poses an unreasonable risk to the public. At the present time, EPA does not believe there is any reason for consumers to stop using any consumer or industrial related products that contain PFOA.


PFOA stands for perfluorooctanoic acid, a synthetic (man-made) chemical that does not occur naturally in the environment. PFOA is sometimes called "C8." Companies use PFOA to make fluoropolymers, substances with special properties that have thousands of important manufacturing and industrial applications. Consumer products made with fluoropolymers include non-stick cookware and breathable, all-weather clothing. EPA wants to emphasize that it does not have any indication that the public is being exposed to PFOA through the use of Teflon® -coated and other non-stick cookware. Teflon ® is not PFOA. PFOA is used to make Teflon ® and other non-stick products.

http://www.epa.gov/oppt/pfoa/pfoainfo.htm
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Old 02-26-2006, 11:43 PM   #13
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so all of the dead bird owners were lying or confused?
trusting the epa's indecision and risking the lives of your pets seems a bit short sighted to me.
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Old 02-27-2006, 12:51 AM   #14
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I hate to say this, but I didn't know of the effects of teflon until after one of my parakeets died. He was singing in his cage, and one of my boys yelled for me to come outside quickly. The stove was on, the pan had nothing in it. I was gone no more than 3 minutes. Leo the bird was dead. I saw this posting within a month or so after it happened, so I moved the rest of my birds to the other side of the house and monitored my cooking more closely. And, coincidently, I bought new stainless today and put all the teflon out in the garage to get rid of.
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:19 AM   #15
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I was not trying to trivialize the loss of a pet. That's a sad an difficult issue to have to deal with. You have to wonder why there aren't any warning labels that come with the stuff.

It's clear that fumes emitted by overheated Teflon can kill small birds. However, that's not what the EPA was addressing. The issue was the chemical PFOA, which is used in the manufacture of Teflon, and whether or not using Teflon will expose consumers to the chemical.
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:35 AM   #16
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sorry andy, i didn't mean to be rude in my response. hope you didn't take it that way, directed at you.
i just didn't want anyone to think that using teflon was ok around birds, big or small.

here's some info on the subject: http://www.peteducation.com/article....articleid=2874
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:04 AM   #17
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I don't know how much C8 is in my blood, I don't know how bad it is. I do know one thing, something that originaly was developed to use on the spaceship, for protection of out layer, cannot posibly good for a human use, let alone ingesting (sp?). Now having said that, I use the non-stick pots and pans all the time. So when I go, (at 120) I'll go happy, not healthy.
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:06 AM   #18
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BT:

I didn't think you were rude. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstood.

This can be very confusing because there are different aspects to the issues.

One of my pet peeves is when spurious science or incomplete information is used to create a product scare.

This happens with Teflon, canola oil, aluminum pans and who knows what else. Many people then take the attitude that they'll just stop using the item "just in case".

This creates a lot of anxiety among consumers that is unnecessary. It makes good press too, which is why we hear about it in the first place.
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This creates a lot of anxiety among consumers that is unnecessary. It makes good press too, which is why we hear about it in the first place.
Right on! !!!!!
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Old 03-03-2006, 02:33 PM   #20
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All I can say is that I use nonstick pans as well as my one stainless saute pan, and I won't give up either without more evidence than the scare tactics that so many media sources are so fond of. We won't ever have to worry about birds in the house, so that isn't an issue. And I NEVER leave any pan unattended on the stove. If I leave the kitchen even for just a moment I'll slide the pan off the burner, not counting a dish that needs to simmer for a couple of hours or more, and even then I'll check on it regularly.
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