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Hey Buzz, thanks for the warm welcome to my first post :rolleyes: You did miss something, what I stated was that most of us don't know 440A, 440B, 440C, so the knife makers state "440 high-carbon steel"- which is what the Gunther Wilhelm website claims and talking to Paul Helman (aka Gunther...

what about those ceramic sharpeners like the one from spyderco?

Your statements are not entirely correct. 440 is a steel used by Wusthof as well, in fact they use 440 50CrMo15 in their classic knives. Sometimes the upper knife makers just say 440, but they all use 440C because you need this grade to hold your edge longer. They just don't say that as most...