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Gosh, I used to knead with KA at speed 6 (or higher under the machine dances) for 15 min. Guess I must have over kneaded my dough, no wonder my bread is hard.

10min on Kitchen Aid at speed 1 or 2??? Gosh, I used about 15 min at speed 6!!!! No wonder my bread is tough! Guess I have over kneaded.

Geee...thanks for all your suggestion and advise. I guessed I was too rigid in following the books, it didnt occur to me that the moisture content was too low. In fact, as I was kneading, I added more flour to prevent it from becoming too sticky :ermm:

Hi, Greetings to everyone. I'm a newbie, happened to stumble upon this wonderful site, I have an old problem and hope some of you experts can throw some lights. I have been trying to bake my own bread and I hand knead my dough. No matter how long I knead, it never look shiny or elastic like...