Andy M.
Certified Pretend Chef
I don't wash any raw meats, poultry of seafood. In light of the article GB linked, it seems inappropriate.
Unless you are using soap or bleach, what are you really washing off? Sure you may get some visible things off (which I agree is not a bad thing), but it is still just as "contaminated" as before you rinsed it. It would be just like sticking your hands in dirt and then rinsing them under water. Are they really clean?DramaQueen said:I always wash poultry and fish, but just under cold running water then pat dry. I wouldn't think of eating poultry that hasn't been washed. I saw the troughs that are used for "washing" chickens and turkeys and it made me sick. No thanks. I wash!! Never beef, pork or lamb.
GB said:Unless you are using soap or bleach, but are you really washing off? Sure you may get some visible things off (which I agree is not a bad thing), but it is still just as "contaminated" as before you rinsed it. It would be just like sticking your hands in dirt and then rinsing them under water. Are they really clean?
See post #11 for the data.auntdot said:If there are data that say do not wash your boids, I will be glad to review them.
You are removing bacteria, but you are not removing all of it so your meat is just as contaminated as it was prior to washing, but now everywhere that water hit is now also contaminated so your sink, anything in it, the backsplash, and anywhere the water splashed onto is now contaminated. If you have a bird that was infected with something nasty then you have just spread that nastiness all over the place (cross contamination) without making the meat any safer then if you had done nothing.auntdot said:I am confused. If washing spreads bacteria around the sink the process must be removing the bugs from the meat. That I would think is good.
Unless in the process of rinsing you have water splash (which always happens no matter how careful you are) and you cross contaminate the area.justplainbill said:A good rub with Kosher salt and then a rinse shouldn't hurt
jpmcgrew said:Exactly you need a good amount of exposure to germs and bacteria to keep your immunity up.I have friends that practically live in an autoclave they clean,clean constantly they get sick all the time especially when they travel.There is a theory that alot of people develop allergies and get sick alot because they are too clean and dont get enough exposure to germs and bacteria so they actually lose their natural immunities because they are not exposed enough.I believe this, as we rarely get sick we are by no means slobs but dont feel the need to disinfect every thing all the time. I think its just another marketing ploy to sell more products.
I hear what you are saying and a lot of people will agree with you. The way I see it though, it is like driving without a seatbelt. You can drive without wearing a seatbelt for 50 years and never have an issue. That one time you get into an accident though is the time you will be wishing you had worn it. It is a simple bit of prevention that can save your life.mitmondol said:Couldn't agree more!
I find most of these recommendations (USDA or not) extreme. I also believe the reason is fear of liability suits on the first place.
The US is over sanitized which is more harmful in my opinion.
I grew up without refridgeration, still leave cooked meals on the stove all they and could list many things I still do that probably would friek some of you out.
Yet, never had food poisoning in my life (or anybody else in my family)
I just believe in common sence and don't listen to all the extreme stuff.
Do I wash meat? Most of the time yes.
auntdot said:I am confused. If washing spreads bacteria around the sink the process must be removing the bugs from the meat. That I would think is good. Maybe it is not necessary for slabs of meat that would be seared and therefore sterilized, but what about the inside of fowl? That is the place that I fear most germs will be hiding since that is the place the intestines come out of. And I would think that area does not get as hot as the outside of the bird during cooking.
jpmcgrew said:I dont rinse chicken to get the bacteria off I wash it to freshen it up from being in the package.Im not worried about contamination then I just quickly wash out sink with a little dish soap. No big deal.
jpmcgrew said:I dont rinse chicken to get the bacteria off I wash it to freshen it up from being in the package.Im not worried about contamination then I just quickly wash out sink with a little dish soap. No big deal.
I always open my chicken in the plastic store bag I brought it home in. It stays flat on the counter inside the bag so nothing drips and the sink does not get contaminated. Then the bag can go right into the trash in the garage.foodstorm said:And I always open my packages of chicken over the sink because they are often drippy! So the sink is going to be exposed to the contaminants anyway.
Exactly the drippy stuff on chicken or the blood on a huge beef tender can have a bit of smell the meat is fine Im just rinsing to get rid of that little bit of funk.Nothing more nothing less.It has nothing to do with bacteria.Its just when it is in a package it just needs a little rinse.foodstorm said:Another ditto. I think most of us are aware that simple rinsing isn't going to decontaminate the poultry. And I always open my packages of chicken over the sink because they are often drippy! So the sink is going to be exposed to the contaminants anyway.
GB said:I always open my chicken in the plastic store bag I brought it home in. It stays flat on the counter inside the bag so nothing drips and the sink does not get contaminated. Then the bag can go right into the trash in the garage.
I am not talking about the plastic shopping bags, but the thinner clear plastic bags they have at the meat counter (and produce section) so that your meat does not drip on your other groceries.foodstorm said:The only time I use those bags is if I forget to bring my reusable canvas bags with me, which isn't very often.
GB said:I am not talking about the plastic shopping bags, but the thinner clear plastic bags they have at the meat counter (and produce section) so that your meat does not drip on your other groceries.