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Old 07-09-2008, 03:35 PM   #11
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You mean I should add some fruit juice, but also some water?
Yes. I would think stock would be better as there is flavor there, but water would work if you don't have or don't want to use stock.
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:49 PM   #12
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Yes. I would think stock would be better as there is flavor there, but water would work if you don't have or don't want to use stock.
Ok, thank you. The strange thing is that I haven't yet come across organic stock here in the Netherlands. It seems that there is much more variety in the US.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:54 PM   #13
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eh...I dunno about using it for a base liquid in a pan suace...might be a bit overwhelming.
true, guess i was still thinking deglaze. a senior moment. please forgive.

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Again, i think it depends on the dish...I use applejuice often for this purpose...where sweetness is appropriate (often with pork for example).
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:15 PM   #15
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Again, i think it depends on the dish...I use applejuice often for this purpose...where sweetness is appropriate (often with pork for example).
Let's say for fish (salmon) and chicken?
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:42 PM   #16
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Wine has flavors you're not going to get from lemon juice, or vinegar, or grape juice, or orange juice.

If you're worried about the alcohol content of wine (12%) - you might look for dealcoholized wines (0.5%).

Another alternative, if you want something that will approximate the flavor of wine, is to look for something called Verjus/Verjuice (different spellings for the same thing). It has the bitter tang of wine without being fermented - and doesn't taste like grape juice.
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:19 AM   #17
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Ok, thank you. The strange thing is that I haven't yet come across organic stock here in the Netherlands. It seems that there is much more variety in the US.
You could make your own:

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Old 07-10-2008, 09:57 AM   #18
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Let's say for fish (salmon) and chicken?
I personally haven't used fruit uice for this purpose with fish. But considering the traditional fruit sauce made of gooseberry I'd be prepared to give it a go. For chicken I have made a pan sauce using apple juice and soy....I can't rmember now, but it was one of my favourite meals about seven yers ago. and while my orange or cherry duck recipes are usually boozy I've made decent versions without booze but plenty of fruit too.

i agree whole heartedly that juice does not have the sae flavour by anyeans as wine, and I personaly a quite boozy cook, but ust because its not the same doesn't mean you can't get good different flavours and experientation in this area could be fun. Personally, to get over the semantics, i'd think of it less as substitution for the 'same result'a variation.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:03 AM   #19
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I use juices all the time. I usually try to cut the juice with it's alcoholic counterpart. i.e. OJ & Cointreau. If you feel it get's too sweet, just add some stock to it.
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