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Old 11-02-2012, 12:01 AM   #31
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Did you go to Mesa Verde Claire? I've been there twice. I just love it! Cliff dwellings on a large scale!
YES! It was one of the biggest experiences of the three years on the road. I'm pretty squeamish about heights. But we took the regular tour, then found a path with a sign-in sheet if you wanted to climb other parts of the park. I'm not kidding, I am not a climber. But we climbed (at times hand-over-hand), over the top, then back down. I was terrified for much of it, but we saw petroglyphs and I'm proud to say, we also saw people backing down because the climb was too much for them. Since I have a fear of heights, I consider this a major accomplishment. I mean, you've seen it. I climbed up the side of the cliffs, over the top, and back down. I was terrified.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:12 AM   #32
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You may have been terrified, but I think you were very brave. You conquered your fear in favor of a great experience. I have severe claustrophobia. I have trouble just locking the door in a public restroom. I too fear heights. And I don't see myself conquering either phobia. Congratulations to you for a great effort on your part.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:52 PM   #33
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I went nomadic for almost 15 years, from the late 70s until the early 90s. My then-wife and I traveled as road musicians. We played in 40 of the 50 states and in 6 countries overseas. "Home" for us, on the rare occasions when we weren't working, was staying at one of our parents or at friends' homes we met along the way. A few times we even slept in our truck (sleeper over the cab).

We had all of the comforts of home with us, including a complete cooking setup.
That sounds good Steve, you must have seen some wonderful places

What instruments did you play....and did you sing too?
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:55 PM   #34
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The only place in Europe I have any interest in seeing is England and Scotland. Only because that is where my ancestors were from. I would also like my kids to see the Lakes District in England where their father was from.
Addie, you will love the UK

England is not only lovely, but fascinating with all the old architecture and little villages...loved it

Yes, the Lake District is fabulous!
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:53 AM   #35
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I have to be fair and say that I was well-prepared for those three road years. My father was in the air force, I was in the air force, and my husband was in the army. I'd already lived over much of the country and a bit of the world. Because of my lifestyle growing up, I wasn't attached to four walls, and a building isn't home for me, it is about the people. Since I wasn't from anyplace firmly, no one really missed me. On the other hand, we formed relationships with people that only lasted days, but made life interesting. I wish I could say I conquered my fear of heights, no I did not. I overcame them a little for a little while, but have no intentions of challenging that fear again. Climbing over Mesa Verde and a couple of other spots out west (I'll think about it and tell you where they were) were a challenge, but once we settled back in, I told my husband, that's it, not doing heights again! Enough is enough!

If anyone is interested in doing the nomadic thing in an RV, send me a private message so we don't bore anyone else, and I'll give you my hints on how to survive and keep (if you're a couple) intact.

We planned our lives day-to-day. If we heard of a festival, we might head there. My husband studied Rand McNally day-to-day, which has notations of things that might interest us. I'm a voracious reader, and he'd say, huh, Claire, do you know Willa Cather? John Steinbeck? and we'd head to their home towns and museums. I might read a chapter to remind myself and husband of the author. (by-the-way, husband wasn't ignorant of the authors, I just would say, "Oh, Pioneer" or "Grapes of Wrath" and we'd be on our way).

I have said often and will repeat for you all, this entire nation seems build on cars, to my great angst sometimes (I lived in Germany as a child and in DC as a young adult, then later in Hawaii, and still to this very day miss public transportation). Since we are stuck in this auto-centered social thing, then I think you should take Addie's comment to mind. That is to say, get in your car and move. Don't kid yourself that everything is where you are living. Don't kid yourself that when you fly from here to there and see another city, you've seen this country. I have crossed the USA in a car more times than I can count (this is the serious truth), and if you think you know the USA because you've flown into a few cities, you are so wrong. Right out of my memories, I'll never forget the zoo in Garden City, Kansas. If I could just transport myself right there right now, I would. Along with the Vietnamese community. And the migration of butterflies. How about the great beef we ate that was fresh off the King ranch? How about ... well, I'm getting boring again! But it was a wonderful experience. Give me a PM if you're considering it.
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YES! It was one of the biggest experiences of the three years on the road. I'm pretty squeamish about heights. But we took the regular tour, then found a path with a sign-in sheet if you wanted to climb other parts of the park. I'm not kidding, I am not a climber. But we climbed (at times hand-over-hand), over the top, then back down. I was terrified for much of it, but we saw petroglyphs and I'm proud to say, we also saw people backing down because the climb was too much for them. Since I have a fear of heights, I consider this a major accomplishment. I mean, you've seen it. I climbed up the side of the cliffs, over the top, and back down. I was terrified.
Yes Claire! I too am afraid of heights, but have climbed those ladders! I am so glad that I did it! Those who have not done this should put it on their bucket list! It is worth the trip! And...years ago you didn't have to sign up to see those places. They took everyone through the first time we visited. Now, they have limited it because there are so many people going through. It is a must see for those who have not gone. :)
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:14 PM   #37
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...both spouse and I really like the idea of immersing ourselves in other cultures. I can see a month or two in Istanbul. I can't say the same for Cleveland (nothing against Cleveland).
Is there anything specific that intrigues you about the culture in Istanbul over other places? As a preteen I lived in the Japanese village of Hyama for a year. To this day I can almost smell a clean pleasant aroma of indescribable proportions that I occasionally find in, like say, a Japanese gift store or tea house....maybe a combination of bamboo ,rice paper, straw tetami mats, cherry blossoms, wood, green tea, maybe japanese kyukyodo incense (aloeswood with a note of charcoal?). The Japanese women were always quiet and polite, their hospitality always welcoming and humbly presented. And the festivals they had were colorful and unique. Their bonsai gardens with koi fish ponds, lily pads, little waterfalls, and sand raked into swirling designs around stepping stones showed their appreciation for their little plot of real estate to tend to. I'm sure things are different now, especially in the big cities.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:30 PM   #38
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Is there anything specific that intrigues you about the culture in Istanbul over other places? As a preteen I lived in the Japanese village of Hyama for a year. To this day I can almost smell a clean pleasant aroma of indescribable proportions that I occasionally find in, like say, a Japanese gift store or tea house....maybe a combination of bamboo ,rice paper, straw tetami mats, cherry blossoms, wood, green tea, maybe japanese kyukyodo incense (aloeswood with a note of charcoal?). The Japanese women were always quiet and polite, their hospitality always welcoming and humbly presented. And the festivals they had were colorful and unique. Their bonsai gardens with koi fish ponds, lily pads, little waterfalls, and sand raked into swirling designs around stepping stones showed their appreciation for their little plot of real estate to tend to. I'm sure things are different now, especially in the big cities.

I just used Istanbul as an example. Could have been Lima, Auckland, or Kyoto.

That said, I have been to Istanbul and Ankara a few times, and Turkey is very high on my list. Enormous history, tons of historical sites. Really great food, friendly people, culture that straddles European and Middle Eastern

I have been to Tokyo a few times, but unfortunately, never got out of the city. The smaller town Japan has it's allure.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:02 PM   #39
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Yes Claire! I too am afraid of heights, but have climbed those ladders! I am so glad that I did it! Those who have not done this should put it on their bucket list! It is worth the trip! And...years ago you didn't have to sign up to see those places. They took everyone through the first time we visited. Now, they have limited it because there are so many people going through. It is a must see for those who have not gone. :)
This was just a sign-in list in case you hadn't signed out when night fell. I knew I'd done something when a family with a couple of teen boys backed down! (they were already past the point where it would be easier to finish the climb and walk across the top of the mesa). Royal Gorge, Seven Falls, the cable car in Palm Springs and up the space needle in Seattle and took a mule ride in Molokai and a glider ride in Hawaii, and the house on a rock in Wisconsin wasn't fun, either. When we settled in here in Galena I told my husband I wasn't challenging my fear of heights ever again. Enough. All were terrifying, and not in a fun, horror-movie way. I was just trying to overcome that fear, and didn't thing the heart-thumping fear was fun at all! Glad I did it, but have no intentions of repeating any of the experiences!
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This was just a sign-in list in case you hadn't signed out when night fell. I knew I'd done something when a family with a couple of teen boys backed down! (they were already past the point where it would be easier to finish the climb and walk across the top of the mesa). Royal Gorge, Seven Falls, the cable car in Palm Springs and up the space needle in Seattle and took a mule ride in Molokai and a glider ride in Hawaii, and the house on a rock in Wisconsin wasn't fun, either. When we settled in here in Galena I told my husband I wasn't challenging my fear of heights ever again. Enough. All were terrifying, and not in a fun, horror-movie way. I was just trying to overcome that fear, and didn't thing the heart-thumping fear was fun at all! Glad I did it, but have no intentions of repeating any of the experiences!
I end up going to the Royal Gorge every time someone visits, so inverting more used to heights all of the time. :) there are places around here that people always want to see when they visit.
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