"Discover Cooking, Discuss Life."

Go Back   Discuss Cooking - Cooking Forums > Recipes & Ingredients > Beef, Pork, Lamb & Venison > Beef
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-09-2007, 12:46 PM   #21
Head Chef
 
auntdot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,418
Jennyma am sorry, I did not feel like tying the entire quote.

But their definition of roasting still seems confined to meat, and I include chicken therein.

My point, and I may have made it poorly, is that it matters not to me if one calls dry cooking, usually at an elevated temperature, roasting or baking.

That is all. No harm meant. And I think I mentioned that not everything tossed in an oven is roasted or baked. The term braised was there.

Take care.
__________________

__________________
Before criticizing a person, walk a mile in his shoes - then you are a mile away and you have his shoes!
auntdot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 01:03 PM   #22
Master Chef
 
jennyema's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boston
Posts: 9,281
I agree, but I think they were using meat as an example. I take their definition and also their def of "baking" to mean that they are essentailly the same thing.
__________________

__________________
Less is not more. More is more and more is fabulous.
jennyema is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 01:05 PM   #23
Certified Pretend Chef
 
Andy M.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 41,408
It appears there is no reason, other than convention, that a whole chicken is roasted while a cut up chicken is baked.
__________________
"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -Carl Sagan
Andy M. is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 02:32 PM   #24
Cook
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Detroit, Michigan, USA
Posts: 89
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by jennyema View Post
Actually, the Food Lover's Companion defines roasting as this: "To oven-cook food in an uncovered pan, a method that usually produces a well-browned exterior and ideally a moist interior. Roasting requires reasonably tender pieces of meat or poultry. "
I don't know, that sounds suspiciously like broiling to me.

Roasting the kinder gentler way to broil...

Baking the kinder gentler way to roast.
__________________
T-roy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 03:39 PM   #25
Master Chef
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Metro New York
Posts: 8,764
Send a message via Yahoo to ChefJune
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy M. View Post
Let me modify my earlier definition. I would say roasting applies to savory dishes while baked applies to sweets.
Not always, Andy. Quinces are roasted in dry heat, usually with sugar or some other sweetener.
__________________
Wine is the food that completes the meal.
ChefJune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 03:57 PM   #26
Chef Extraordinaire
 
pacanis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW PA
Posts: 18,751
And don't forget...... While chestnuts are roasted on an open fire, marshmallows are toasted.
__________________
pacanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 03:59 PM   #27
Traveling Welcome Wagon
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere, US
Posts: 15,919
Quote:
Originally Posted by auntdot View Post
I roast a roast and bake a cake.
In California, Minnesota, and Missouri we "baked" cakes, but in South Carolina they "cook" cakes!

Barbara
__________________
Barbara L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2007, 01:35 PM   #28
Senior Cook
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-roy View Post
I don't know, that sounds suspiciously like broiling to me.

Roasting the kinder gentler way to broil...

Baking the kinder gentler way to roast.

Baking/roasting is *completely* different from broiling/grilling. The former cooks via the hot air, while the latter cooks via heat energy transmitted directly from source to food.

Else I'm completely confused.
__________________
sherifffruitfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2007, 02:13 PM   #29
Chef Extraordinaire
 
GotGarlic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southeastern Virginia
Posts: 16,922
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherifffruitfly View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-roy
I don't know, that sounds suspiciously like broiling to me.

Roasting the kinder gentler way to broil...

Baking the kinder gentler way to roast.
Baking/roasting is *completely* different from broiling/grilling. The former cooks via the hot air, while the latter cooks via heat energy transmitted directly from source to food.

Else I'm completely confused.
No, you're correct. I think of roasting as creating a browned, caramelized crust on food, like roasted turkey, chicken, veggies, etc. The temp depends on the size and density of the food you're roasting, so turkey is roasted at a lower temp than veggies. Baking is dry cooking in the oven, but baked potatoes, for example, don't have a browned exterior crust, while roasted ones do.
__________________
The trouble with eating Italian food is that five or six days later you're hungry again. ~ George Miller
GotGarlic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2007, 05:40 PM   #30
Chef Extraordinaire
 
pacanis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW PA
Posts: 18,751
Yes, but if you smear a potato with butter, wrap it in foil and bake it in the oven, it comes out entirely different than one simply pricked and set on the grate to bake. I don't think the exterior of the food has anything to do with whether it's baked or roasted.
But I'll bet if you took that same potato, set it on a cookie sheet, drizzle oil on it and baked it, you would be more likely to call it roasted. Especially if they were smaller sized and you were doing a bunch of them.

I'm thinking that adding something to the exterior of what you are cooking leans it towards the roasted camp as long as it's not made of grain, as in a cake or pie crust. I think roasting adds another element to the cooking process, unless it's covered with foil like the potato I mentioned.
Where "Roast and Boast" falls into this I don't know.....
__________________

__________________
pacanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
None

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Discuss Cooking on Facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.