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Old 12-08-2008, 08:44 PM   #21
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DH uses an electric one that I bought him from Bass Pro. It is wonderful.

I know there's an art to doing it with a whetstone, but it's sure a lot harder work, and this thing does a perfect job every time.
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:55 PM   #22
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wow..320--800 800--3000 are HUGE jumps in grit

that's going to take alot of effort to get the scratches out

theres nothing that will fit in between those grits?
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:05 PM   #23
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wow..320--800 800--3000 are HUGE jumps in grit

that's going to take alot of effort to get the scratched out

theres nothing that will fit in between those grits?
Hi Shep. EP used to provide a 6k as their top end. They have discontinued it and now finish with 8k. The referred to 3 & 7k are polishing tapes. I've used them plenty of times. The 7k gives a finish equal to about 1/3 that of a Naniwa 10k Super Stone and it takes about ten times as long to get there.

The EP is a wonderful tool and produces very good edges, especially in the hands of someone like now banned from this site Chico Buller. I have witnessed his work first hand and am in awe. However, in my world, as an insane edge aficionado, the EP does not (yet) provide the tools. Why should they? The audience is a small one.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:18 PM   #24
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In all fairness, the EP grits have their own numerology. This chart shows the comparison of EP numbers verses Japanese waterstones, so the EPs are not as coarse as the numbers would leave one to believe. Thank you for the reference, Pam - even though you aren't on this site.

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Old 12-08-2008, 09:22 PM   #25
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well, he may have been good using the EP, but he was a bit too full of BS, and himself for me to take him seriously ( especially after how I saw his comments about his "customers")
sometimes, it's just a bit cheaper and easier to do it with stone,,IMO
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Edit to above: The chart also shows why you wouldn't dream of trying to profile something like ZDP-189 with the EP 120 stone. It could hardly scratch it.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:26 PM   #27
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Thanks for the chart, it seems people just come up with numbers willy nilly when it comes to grit sizes
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:29 PM   #28
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well, he may have been good using the EP, but he was a bit too full of BS, and himself for me to take him seriously ( especially after how I saw his comments about his "customers")
sometimes, it's just a bit cheaper and easier to do it with stone,,IMO
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You are correct. Perhaps I just don't understand Zen, but even if I did I'm way too practical and wouldn't allow myself to be carried away. Chico is a perfectionist. The results of his work with an EP are beautiful, as far as an EP can take you. However, there are other roads......
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:22 PM   #29
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to be honest...it really has nothing to do with "zen".Sometimes people like at add mystical tags to things to make them seem extraordinary. Sharpening is just a skillset, it takes practice with correct form-just like cutting perfect 1/4" cubes.The cutlery industry is entirely too full of myth and legend that simply become accepted as fact because it's been repeated over...and over....and over.
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couldn't agree more ;-)
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