Italian Cooking

[Rocket_J_Dawg]

I use sweet Italian sausage removed from the casings.

OK great, thanks Andy.

 

[Cooking Goddess]

It is only about a 1.5 hours drive from here. Head back up there again before you go back to Ohio. Unless you have relatives here, the chance of you ever coming back this way is doubtful............

Addie, HOW fast are you or your driver going? Boston to Rockland is about 180 miles! It's about 4 hours or so from our house, so it would be even longer if we picked you up too. We were there years ago, and I'm not even sure we would recognize which restaurant it was - if it's even there anymore. We will have family back here when we move, but when we come back we'll just want to visit and eat locally if we go out at all.

As far as the cheese goes, the flavor was very light but I think it was Parm. Even if I don't duplicate the recipe exactly I'm sure we'd like whatever I created.

 

[Cooking Goddess]

The recipe I saw was for a basic red sauce lasagne, then half way through the baking you add the bechamel on top and continue baking.

My post was referring to two different pans of lasagna. My red sauce lasagna is just red sauce. The seafood lasagna had a creamy white sauce. Does that explain it?

 

[moiki85]

Yes CarolPa. We put the béchamel sauce on lasagne, but not only on the top. After put the red sauce, you do putting the white sauce.

 

[jennyema]

I have one more question. LOL I was googling recipes for bechamel and I see that some are just a white sauce and others include cheese and/or eggs. For example, I think I would really like this Vegetable Lasagne. The bechemel includes cheese and eggs. Is that common?

Vegetable Lasagna With A Thick Bechamel Sauce Recipe - Food.com - 251309

If it contains cheese or eggs its not béchamel sauce.

Béchamel sauce is white sauce, made from butter and flour and milk. Seasoned with salt and pepper and often nutmeg.

If you add cheese, it's called Mornay Sauce. If you add eggs it's something else.

 

[CarolPa]

My post was referring to two different pans of lasagna. My red sauce lasagna is just red sauce. The seafood lasagna had a creamy white sauce. Does that explain it?

I think I understand your process with the 2 different types of lasagne. I was noting that the recipe I saw in the cookbook was a complete red sauce lasagne, and the bechamel was just an added layer on top. Others have said that they combine the red sauce and the bechemel, or they use a layer of red sauce and then a layer of bechemel as they assemble the lasagne. I guess there are many ways to do it depending on what one prefers.

I have made bechamel for other recipes, just the flour, butter, milk but never saw it with cheese added unless I was making mac and cheese.

And Addie, I make it with skim milk because that's what I buy day to day. Sometimes I might buy a small bottle of whole milk for a certain recipe.

 

[Andy M.]

...I have made bechamel for other recipes, just the flour, butter, milk but never saw it with cheese...

Bechamel is one of the five mother sauces of traditional French cooking. It's fat, flour and milk. If you add cheese, the bechamel becomes a mornay sauce. So, bechamel = white sauce and mornay = cheese sauce.

 

[cara]

The way my former half-italian boyfriend told me to do the Lasagna is red sauce with ground beef (a bolognese-kind), and then alternately bechamel, red, bechamel... and always end with the bechamel...

 

[moiki85]

Hi Cara. I'm completely Italian (so sorry for my bad English). That isn't a correct order. Onto the pasta, let's put the red sauce (bolognese) and after the bechamel sauce. Then pasta, red sauce and bechamel sauce and so on.

 

[CarolPa]

Where it's going, it's all going to be mixed together anyway, so I don't think it really matters what order you put it on.

 

[cara]

Hi Cara. I'm completely Italian (so sorry for my bad English). That isn't a correct order. Onto the pasta, let's put the red sauce (bolognese) and after the bechamel sauce. Then pasta, red sauce and bechamel sauce and so on.

That's what I meant, so my english probably isn't much better than your good english ;o)

 

[CarolPa]

That's what I meant, so my english probably isn't much better than your good english ;o)

I've lived in the US all my life and English is my only language, and mine is far from perfect! I commend anyone from other countries who can speak English. I have corrected Cat, only because I knew she was studying English and asked for our help.

 

[moiki85]

I know that my English isn't good but I didn't study it at school. Now I trying to study very well. For that I write in the forum. I like so much to cook. For this I study English and, at the same time, I try to give you some Italian cook advices.
I'm sorry.

 

[PrincessFiona60]

Do not be sorry! Your English is understandable. By posting here you can see how we put sentences together and learn. We enjoy teaching.

And your Italian is much better than mine

 

[cara]

I know that my English isn't good but I didn't study it at school. Now I trying to study very well. For that I write in the forum. I like so much to cook. For this I study English and, at the same time, I try to give you some Italian cook advices.
I'm sorry.

who says your english isn't good? I'm currently learning italian at an adult education center and I thought for avery very small moment to write something in Italian, but there wouldn't be any more than where I come from and maybe something about my hobbies.. ;o)

In Germany you have to learn english and in most schools (depends on the school form -> German education system) you learn a second foreign language from the 7th grade. When I was younger most learned french, I was one of the few to learn Latin (Ave Addie!), in these days spanish is very popular..

 

[Cooking Goddess]

I know that my English isn't good but I didn't study it at school. Now I trying to study very well. For that I write in the forum. I like so much to cook. For this I study English and, at the same time, I try to give you some Italian cook advices.
I'm sorry.

Sorry? Nothing to be sorry for moiki. Even life-long natives have trouble with American English. And I'm thankful for Italian cooking advice, or any kind of advice. No matter how long any of us cook or how proficient we might think we are, everyone can learn a little something new now and then. Glad you're here.

 

[CharlieD]

I know that my English isn't good but I didn't study it at school. Now I trying to study very well. For that I write in the forum. I like so much to cook. For this I study English and, at the same time, I try to give you some Italian cook advices.
I'm sorry.

You are fine. And your English is fine. Look I am Russian, been in this country for 24 years now. Still can barely spell. Addie has to correct me all the time, thanks Addie.

On the other hand I have to say, I love Italian language and Italy of course. The whole language is like a one big beautiful song.
Just post away and look at peoples comments, if you wish you can ask people to correct what you post. That is what I used to do. Helps.

 

[cara]

On the other hand I have to say, I love Italian language and Italy of course. The whole language is like a one big beautiful song.

sooo well said!!

 

[moiki85]

Thank you so much! If you want, you can correct me. I'll be glad! Tomorrow I post few white sauce recipes for pasta.
If you want know a specific recipe, you can tell me and I post that. ;-)

 

[Roll_Bones]

In the southern US (maybe elsewhere also) they make a sausage/bread stuffing for stuffing a turkey with.
In fact I have made it myself, by adding cooked sausage to my regular stuffing. It seems to taste good with the bird, so i suppose without the bread it would taste good too

I add breakfast type bulk sausage to my bread stuffing/dressing. Italian is great too.
I use cornbread sometimes and use the same recipe/idea.

A true bechamel would be a meat sauce with tomato and cream.

Typo?

If it contains cheese or eggs its not béchamel sauce.
Béchamel sauce is white sauce, made from butter and flour and milk. Seasoned with salt and pepper and often nutmeg.
If you add cheese, it's called Mornay Sauce. If you add eggs it's something else.

I learn terminology every time I come here. Thanks.

Hi Cara. I'm completely Italian (so sorry for my bad English). That isn't a correct order. Onto the pasta, let's put the red sauce (bolognese) and after the bechamel sauce. Then pasta, red sauce and bechamel sauce and so on.

I have never tried the bechamel sauce on lasagna. I rarely make this dish as it takes a lot of time and effort.
But I am going to try the bechamel. And always finish the top with bechamel?

I know that my English isn't good but I didn't study it at school. Now I trying to study very well. For that I write in the forum. I like so much to cook. For this I study English and, at the same time, I try to give you some Italian cook advices.
I'm sorry.

Let me tell you something. You are fantastic with you're English. Not only do you speak English, you can write in English.
I tip my hat to you, and look forward to more ideas from you.

Thank you so much! If you want, you can correct me. I'll be glad! Tomorrow I post few white sauce recipes for pasta.
If you want know a specific recipe, you can tell me and I post that. ;-)

I'm waiting!