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Old 10-27-2010, 10:15 PM   #51
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Is this thread about knocking premade dinners like Stouffers and the like?
They are getting healthier every year.

If I'm tired and don't feel like boiling pasta to make spaghetti and meat sauce.
Stouffers to the rescue.

If I have to have a premade dinner, I will try to round it out with everything else being fresh. At least some heated up garlic bread and a fresh salad and rolls.

Same thing goes with Swedish meatballs and noodles. I'll cook some green peas with it along with a fresh salad and rolls.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:57 AM   #52
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"He who is without sin cast the first stone". I'm uncomfortable with the pethora of judgemental comments in this thread. I can say I have never looked in other people's carts to see what they are buying. I have never looked in someone's grocery bag, read their receipt, and cast judgement on what they are buying or why they are plump. Maybe they're buying it for a invalid friend. Maybe their stove is on the blink...or maybe their kitchen is being renovated. When I go to a grocery store I'm on a mission and I'm all about me, my family, and friends. I don't pay any attention to strangers there...why would I? Am I the only one?

I know you're laughing at my seemingly naive statements...yes, the supply of processed food is there because the demand is there, but my point is that we have no business judging strangers in a grocery store. It's arrogant. No?

Furthermore, I see improvements...in America anyway (i'm not familiar with other countries). Educational materials and mass media attention have reached many. More people know about processed foods, exercise, portion control, pyramid w/dailyrequirements, when to eat, why to eat, what to eat, etc than ever before. The awareness is there. It's the other factors that are too many to mention here...will-power, stress, physical issues, and emotional issues are at the top of the list.

Maybe they just lost 100 lbs but they're having a bad day and are feeling weak for one day. Anyone here ever had a bad day?

Some people have more of those issues than others so give'em a break.
You make an excellent point here, Mollyanne. And although I do agree with you, for the most part, I do have to disagree a little.

The information is out there, sure and some people are paying attention, but overall, the obesity rate isn't going down. Obesity is still rising. Mainly due to the low cost of crap food compared to the price of good food. Why buy healthy food for one meal when you can get three meals of crap food for the same price?

I've always admitted I am just as guilty, the difference is, I do something to keep myself, somewhat, regulated. I went from 150 pounds 5 years ago to 210 (which I reached about a year ago) while my fiancee gained around 10 pounds in the same time. But her weight gain, admittedly, is from trying to keep pace with me when we go out to eat. My doctor says I should get down to 165, but there is no way I will hit that weight without losing muscle mass. I continue to go to the gym and eat better foods, though sometimes in larger portions then I should, but I've been increasingly better about this.

Problems with it are simple. When you get to park in the handicap spaces because you are overweight (they actually call it a disease these days) and you ride around in a power cart while doing your shopping, there is a problem. We didn't evolve to eat all day. We evolved in a time of limited food sources and actually having to hunt down our food or go gather it. Our body, as I'm sure most here already know, is built to store food (energy in the form of fat) so eating the way we do, coupled with less exercise (travel to hunt/gather) equals fat people.

Should I pass judgement on these people? No, but seeing them in my job constantly (formerly worked in an OR and currently work in a rehability facility) and hearing them complain about not being about to walk around on their own, but then they order all the extra crap with their meals (which IMO should be better regulated by the dietary staff) and do nothing but lie in bed when they are done with their therapy, doesn't earn any of them any slack. Sure, I know a few people who have real medical issues that cause them to have an extremely rough time with their weight, but that is not the norm.

Sure, everyone has bad days. I've had days where I don't eat and I've had days where McD's makes up every meal I have. Bad days don't make you fat. Bad EVERYday does. Besides, it is hard not to notice the 400 pound lady on the cart with $250 worth of frozen meals, soda and potato chips on line in front of you. And I highly doubt that just because someone doesn't open up and post or actually say out loud what they are thinking, that every other person that sees that has a similar thought.

More work still needs to be done to educate people on the effects of these types of foods and something needs to be done about the prices. It's really difficult to buy the good food when the crap food is so much cheaper for so much more.
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Terrific thread, everyone! Worth the time to read from page 1. I could've gone the fast food route and just read/replied to the last page's post, as we admittedly sometimes do, but the payoff to doing something, like discovering cooking or discussing life, slowly, is context. I like to cook for my family because, to me, it gives our repast a deeper meaning.

I've never had much of an opinion about people's shopping carts containing processed or junk food. It's relative, after all. The guy at the front of the grocery check-out line has a take-away box of penne from the deli, the gal behind him has a frozen microwave dinner box of spaghetti and meatballs, the woman behind her has a can of Chef Boyardee, I'm behind her with a bag of dried pasta, the man behind me has a bag of flour and eggs, and there's a man behind him pushing five shopping carts full of golden wheat stalks and carrying a live chicken under his arm. Well, okay, ya, sometimes I do notice what people have in their shopping carts, but mostly that's because I enjoy striking up friendly conversations with strangers at grocery stores.
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I have a hard time with anyone calling people "slobs" in this forum. I agree that we should be a lot less judgmental and worry about what's in our own carts.
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I have a hard time with anyone calling people "slobs" in this forum. I agree that we should be a lot less judgmental and worry about what's in our own carts.
Thank you!
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I have a hard time with anyone calling people "slobs" in this forum. I agree that we should be a lot less judgmental and worry about what's in our own carts.
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Me too! I was upset by the way the thread was worded and thought to myself why get upset by what's in someone else's cart. As Dear Abby would say, MYOB.
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Is this thread about knocking premade dinners like Stouffers and the like?
They are getting healthier every year.

If I'm tired and don't feel like boiling pasta to make spaghetti and meat sauce.
Stouffers to the rescue.

If I have to have a premade dinner, I will try to round it out with everything else being fresh. At least some heated up garlic bread and a fresh salad and rolls.
Premade dinners are healthier in our British supermarkets, but I have to pay a premium for them. I don't do "budget" that have no real nutritional vlaue.

Like you, if I'm tired and don't feel like cooking, then I'll slam one of those into my oven or, nuke it. I can't do garlic bread unless the butter is minimum, and the bread has to be wholemeal brown, not white. It's because I'm diabetic.

Yes, premades save busy stressed people from the drudge of having to cook when they get home tired and shattered. But we are not "slobs" as the OP first wrote. Far from it.

I'm not interested in what other have in their trollies. because at the end of long day I want to select the premades off the shelves, scrurry to the checkout, pay, get in my Jag and go home.
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Old 10-30-2010, 08:59 PM   #59
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I wasn't going to comment either but I agree with the MYOB unless asked.I really don't know the person's situation.I may not care either but I try not to judge.

Poppi-It sounds like England has some sort of ranking system for their pre-made meals.Is this true? Sounds like a good idea.
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prepared food manufacturers have worked really hard at making people feel better about feeding their families their processed foods, just look at the commercials, they are very heartwarming.

Just about everyone has times where a frozen dinner comes in handy and they take the easy route, and nothing is wrong with that in my book. Then there are some who eat a constant diet of this stuff, and that can't be good.

I think people are waking up, slowly but surely, and maybe over time these products will become healthier and better quality.
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