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Old 09-01-2006, 10:14 AM   #11
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Beer does not need light to go bad! Age and heat ARE factors. Beer should be consumed 120 after bottleing for the best flavor as long as it hasn't been exposed to heat ~ i.e. don't keep it in your trunk in the summer.
I have to kind of disagree about the 120 days thing. I definitely agree about the heat though.

The thing is, beer is just like (if not worse) than wine. The description "beer" fails to take into account all the different variations in styles.

While a Budweiser may not age gracefully (or even well), a barleywine or belgian trippel (if stored under stable, cool conditions) can age and change much like a fine red wine. There are groups of people who will buy a beer with the sole intention of againg it for a year or more, sampling bottles along the way and noting changes in the flavors. (Yes, I am guilty of doing this )

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Old 09-01-2006, 10:22 AM   #12
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I have to kind of disagree about the 120 days thing. I definitely agree about the heat though.

The thing is, beer is just like (if not worse) than wine. The description "beer" fails to take into account all the different variations in styles.

While a Budweiser may not age gracefully (or even well), a barleywine or belgian trippel (if stored under stable, cool conditions) can age and change much like a fine red wine. There are groups of people who will buy a beer with the sole intention of againg it for a year or more, sampling bottles along the way and noting changes in the flavors. (Yes, I am guilty of doing this )

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High falutin' beer ~ gotch ya. I guess when it comes to certain things, there is never an ALL YES or ALL NO answer.

I'm a cheap beer with bunches of lemon person. Although, that's more about necessity based on location now. I used to go to a great restaurant in CA that was also a microbrewery and have their specialty beers, but here, that doesn't happen. It's grocery store beer here. No high falutin' stuff.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:32 AM   #13
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Beer doesn't last long enough around here to go bad.
In regard to the Bailey's, we always keep ours in the fridge after opening. It doesn't last long either, though, as Kim loves it in his morning coffee.

The hard stuff lasts forever.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:13 AM   #14
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Yes. If you have a 12-year-old bottle of Scotch, send it to me.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:36 AM   #15
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Yes. If you have a 12-year-old bottle of Scotch, send it to me.
That is more than likely the case here!!!! Some of this stuff I would venture to guess around 8 years old? Do they put dates on this stuff?????

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Ship the bottles to me and after repeatedly and carefully sampling each item I will report back to you on the quality of each.
LOL!!! I get it, so give it a try and see if it is worthy.... something tells me that after the 4th or 5th taste test, I won't care about what the rest tastes like!!!!

Thanks to all.... I always appreciate your feedback!!!!
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:37 AM   #16
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I used to go to a great restaurant in CA that was also a microbrewery and have their specialty beers.....
which one did you like? (always on a hunt for something new)
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:41 AM   #17
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which one did you like? (always on a hunt for something new)
My friend was manager at McCormick and Shmicks in Irvine. Free is fun! They did that chocolate and rasberry thing and other beers that didn't taste like beer. Oh, and we were weekend flyers to San Diego so I did my fair share of sampling at Sea World.
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I have an un-opened bottle of Crown from 1976. This thread is tempting me more and more to answer this question first hand.

Is it 5 o'clock yet?
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Make sure the lid is on tight with spirits, and keep it away from the light. If the lid is loose, the alcohol may evaporate, and light can hasten the breakdown of the other elements that give flavor and character to the booze.

Wine is a different problem, as I can attest after having collected it for about 35 years. Although the alcohol in wine is unlikely to breakdown unless the cork is bad, the other elements do change over time, sometimes improving the wine initially but eventually causing it to go bad for one reason or another. All wine will eventually lose its appeal, tasting flat, fruitless, and even nasty.

White wine rarely improves with age, or improves only slightly. Top-end Chardonnay, for example, is usually best at 3 to 6 years and may keep for another decade or more, but most white wines are over the hill by the time they're 10 years old. Dessert wines, however, such as Sauternes (the real stuff, not what they sell on Skid Row), may improve for many years and can keep even longer than reds due to their high-sugar content.

Reds, especially very tannic wines such as Cabernet, often need 6 to 10 years to mellow out, but they MAY keep continue to improve for a decade beyond that and then keep for another decade or two, but only a rare few are good for much longer.

However, the idea that the older the wine, the better it is, is simply false. It depends on the type of wine, the wine itself (i.e., Two-Buck Up-Chuck ain't getting better without divine intervention), how it's stored, and other factors such as the quality of the cork (infection caused by bad corks is one reason that screw caps are making big inroads in the wine industry).

For long-term storage, meaning over a year, wine should be kept in the dark, at cool temperatures (ideally 55 to 60 degrees -- anything colder will pretty much stop the aging process, but there's no problem with leaving it in the refrigerator), in moderate humidity to protect the cork from drying out, and lying on its side to keep the cork wet so that it maintains the seal. Heat and light are wine's biggest enemies.

As a generally rule, if you don't have a proper storage place, you probably should drink any wine you buy within a couple of years of the date on which it was bottled.
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My MIL cleaned out her goody cabinet and sent home with hubby 2 boxes full of spirits. 1 Bottle is some sort of canadian whiskey unopened. Point is, some of this stuff is old.... several years at least.... everything from vodka, tekillya, gin, whiskey, and rum. Basically we have a stocked bar now if any of that stuff is any good. There was also a small bottle of triple sec and some sort of Italian liqueur... Frangelico... smells wonderful what ever it is!

Any advice on the matter is much appreciated!!!!
IMO, you're pretty safe if the bottle is unopened. Once it's open, try to drink it/use it up ASAP. I have a gadget (for champagne/wine, etc), you insert into the top of the bottle, and press down, after the cork is removed to keep it for a little while.

*Wine is a whole different ballgame. I'm not too wine savvy, but, age does matter, i.e. wine cellars, correct temps, and storing it on its' side -- seemingly, the older - the more expensive - all unopened. Hope that helps.

Note: Send me your Chivas too. lol.

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