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Old 03-09-2014, 06:27 PM   #51
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It depends on who you choose to believe I like bacon, so I believe Michael Ruhlman: The ?No Nitrites Added? Hoax | Michael Ruhlman
Yeah, uncured bacon? Is it even bacon if it isn't cured?

I do wonder if the naturally occurring nitrates and nitrites are the same or just similar to the ones used in curing meat.
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Old 03-09-2014, 06:33 PM   #52
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It depends on who you choose to believe I like bacon, so I believe Michael Ruhlman: http://ruhlman.com/2011/05/the-no-nitrites-added-hoax/
Interesting article, GG.

With or without nitrates/nitrites, bacon good.
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:45 PM   #53
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Bacon...yup, it always sounds good.
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:51 PM   #54
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My stove has this cool button. press it and the oven cleans itself. Easy peasy.
Are the newer self cleaning ovens safer to use than the older models?
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Are the newer self cleaning ovens safer to use than the older models?
I assume they are safe. I've been using a self-cleaning oven since the 70s without incident.
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I assume they are safe. I've been using a self-cleaning oven since the 70s without incident.
The reason I ask is when they first came out people were warned to leave the house and take any birds, animals with them.

I used one several times when we had one and loved it---- but always left the house and put animals outside too.

I assume they make them safer now because of the bad press back then.
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The reason I ask is when they first came out people were warned to leave the house and take any birds, animals with them.

I used one several times when we had one and loved it---- but always left the house and put animals outside too.

I assume they make them safer now because of the bad press back then.

Never heard any of that and always stayed in the house when the oven was self-cleaning.

So the warning was to put out the animals but not the humans...
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Sodium Nitrate is sodium nitrate. Sodium nitrite is sodium nitrite. It matters not the source.
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I buy Oscar Mayer Center Cut bacon, cut the package in half and freeze it until needed. Some bacon brands seem to curl more than others.
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Yeah, uncured bacon? Is it even bacon if it isn't cured?
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Bacon is one of the greatest foods on the planet, but the food marketers are going to figure out a way to make you buy their bacon. So what they do is use celery powder and celery juice (note the asterisk on the label above) as their nitrate source (celery is loaded with nitrate) and are therefore are allowed to say no nitrites added. Why go to the trouble? Because we don’t know any better. Can we really be this stupid? I have only one word to say on this beyond an emphatic yes.
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Callout Comment: Elise Bauer responds: “The thing that irks me is the “no added nitrites or nitrates” as if the fact that they’re adding celery powder means nothing. Or “uncured” even though they are obviously “curing” with celery powder. It is false, misleading, and playing off of people’s food fears to market their cured product that is loaded with nitrates. When I saw a bright pink slab of corned beef for sale at TJ’s, marketed as “uncured” I knew there was a problem.”
The nitrates in the celery cure the bacon.
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