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With all of the crazy laws Bloomberg has passed or attempted to pass, how soon until all the good restaurants move to Jersey City or at least outside the city limits?

I still can't believe the NYC politicians called for a ban on salt in restaurants (even during prep).
 
It's very old news, 2010. Note that although Bloomberg called it ridiculous, when you read the rest of his response, it's clear he means that it was too much too fast and you have to ease people into their lives being controlled for their own good as determined by someone very, very smart (like guess who) over a few years.


A10129-2009 Text
S T A T E O F N E W Y O R K

10129
I N ASSEMBLY
March 5, 2010

Introduced by M. of A. ORTIZ, MARKEY -- Multi-Sponsored by -- M. of A.
PERRY -- read once and referred to the Committee on Health


AN ACT to amend the general business law, in relation to prohibiting the
use of salt in the preparation of food by restaurants
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEMBLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

Section 1. The general business law is amended by adding a new section
399-bbb to read as follows:

S 399-BBB. PROHIBITION ON SALT; RESTAURANTS. 1. NO OWNER OR OPERATOR OF A RESTAURANT IN THIS STATE SHALL USE SALT IN ANY FORM IN THE PREPARATION OF ANY FOOD FOR CONSUMPTION BY CUSTOMERS OF SUCH RESTAURANT, INCLUDING FOOD PREPARED TO BE CONSUMED ON THE PREMISES OF SUCH RESTAURANT OR OFF OF SUCH PREMISES.

Wikipedia:
In March 2010, Ortiz introduced a bill, co-sponsored with assembly members Margaret Markey and N. Nick Perry, that would prohibit the use of all forms of salt in the preparation and cooking of all restaurant food.[3] Ortiz said he was inspired to introduce the bill after his father suffered a heart attack due to high blood pressure.[4] The bill quickly gained media attention, and prompted negative comments from New York chefs such as Tom Colicchio, who said a salt ban would mean "no one would come here anymore,"[5] and New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, who called the bill "ridiculous".[6] The proposal also earned Ortiz the title of "Nanny of the Month" for March 2010 from Reason.tv.[7] Responding to the outcry, Ortiz issued a statement saying that his intention was to have the bill only outlaw the use of salt "as an additive", not as "a functional component of the recipe".[6]
 
yes, old news, but do you know abput the new speakeasies that are popping up? you can get extra salt and 20 oz. sodas, but for a price.
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i can see a future where people pray for snow storms so they can follow the salt spreader trucks around with containers of french fries.
 
I am opposed to government determining what I can eat or drink and I think privately Bloomberg is too. I think the real genius in Bloomberg's approach is that he uses these bans to create a national dialogue on health issues and eventually changes are made that improve the overall health of the nation. In the case of salt and sugar I would like to see pressure placed on food companies to reduce the amount or remove it where it is not needed or was never intended to be.

As for the sweetened beverage ban it makes me laugh. I am obese, round as a biscuit, and I have not had a sweetened beverage in about forty years.

Go figure! :ermm::ohmy::LOL:
 
Time For A New Governor & A New Mayor

:) People shall carry Salt in their Shoulder Bags ... :mad:

It is time for a new Governor and a new Mayor ... Besides, it is illegal to be in mandate over 8 years, isn´t it ?

I am sure the Michelin Chefs, such as Tom Keller etcetra, shall manifest or take it further ... Yes ?

Interesting thread too ...

Ciao, Have nice wkend.

Margi. ;)
 
Some things Bloomberg did were great. The no smoking in bars and restaurants (bc you know other people are effected) and the posting of calories on menus with 15+ restaurants. I really miss that since I moved because I felt u could make an informed choice. But it was a choice he gave NYers unlike his current ban on soda which takes choice away.
 
I reckon he means well, but he sure comes off looking kinda pushy. Ban large sodas....what's next? no more free refills? limit soda sales to one per customer?
I wonder if he really believes that banning large sodas will truly help.To be sure there must be more pressing matters in NYC....'course, not having ever traveled to that fair city, I could be wrong.
 
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i can see a future where people pray for snow storms so they can follow the salt spreader trucks around with containers of french fries.
:LOL::LOL:

And new Hookah bars and salt lick establishments for after dinner--it will be all the rave.
 
It is time for a new Governor and a new Mayor ... Besides, it is illegal to be in mandate over 8 years, isn´t it ?

New York City had a two-term limit, but Bloomy got it extended to three years. No limits on the governor.

Most places in the U.S., a mayor can hold office indefinitely. Hilmer Moore,the mayor of Richmond, Texas, a respectable sized small city, has held office since 1949.
City of Richmond, Texas

Richard M Daley was mayor of Chicago for 22 years. Many states have term limits for governors. But Texas and North Dakota both have current governors in office more than 11 years.
 
I am opposed to government determining what I can eat or drink and I think privately Bloomberg is too. I think the real genius in Bloomberg's approach is that he uses these bans to create a national dialogue on health issues and eventually changes are made that improve the overall health of the nation. In the case of salt and sugar I would like to see pressure placed on food companies to reduce the amount or remove it where it is not needed or was never intended to be.

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:ermm::ohmy::LOL:
If that's what he is doing, then kudos to him.

My blood pressure went up to 180/105. I was shocked. I knew I had been eating more salt, so I started to cut back. Mostly, I started looking at the sodium content of foods. My BP is back down to 120/65 and I really don't consider my diet to be "low salt" now.

I was shocked to see how much salt is added to food e.g., 260 mg of sodium in a 2 tablespoon serving of salsa. That's 11% of the RDA!

Maybe the restaurants should have to list how much sodium on average for each menu item. It might make the chefs and owners reconsider excessive salt use.
 
We do thing differently here in the UK we just let the main culprits sponsor the Olympics.
I would vote for Bloomberg.
 
...no smoking in bars and restaurants (bc you know other people are effected)
Documentation please.......
How about this (published two months ago)?
New evidence of harmfulness of second-hand smoke: Cancer causing agent present in gaseous phase of cigarette smoke

And on a more basic level, even if it did turn out there were no health implications from second-hand smoke, I sure appreciate people not puffing on their cancer sticks around me in a restaurant while I'm trying to eat. It has nothing to do with your rights. It's common courtesy.

As for the other stuff, I agree that the government has no business telling people what they can or can't eat. But, like Aunt Bea points out, it really seems like more of a publicity stunt to promote awareness, than a proposal for serious legislation.
 
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I would be bring my own salt shaker with me and for soda? I would be ordering two of their largest. One for my imaginary friend sitting across from me.

When did Boomberg become a health specialist? We all need some sodium in our system. And for sodas? I don't drink them at all. Yet I too am overweight. I might drink a bottle of carbonated soda or seltzer water with a squirt of lemon about every six months. Does that count as a soda?

We have a zealous mayor in Boston as well. But he hasn't gone as far as Bloomberg yet. His approach is excercise. He has started a bicycle program to get people to ride a bike to work. He is asking the summer programs for kids in the summer to put in more outside active games into their programs. Get the kids moving again. Volley Ball is one of his suggestions. I think it is an excellent idea. We also have a free tennis program for inner city kids.

If you are going to address the obesity program in this country, start where the problem starts. With the kids. Excercise is addictive. Ask any runner. :)
 
They would still serve salt at the table, right? For those who want some salt on their food? Or would customers have to bring their own? Or even worse, do without?

Maybe we need a law requiring us to chew our food carefully and swallow it slowly. Also need that floss your teeth twice a day law.
 
I would be bring my own salt shaker with me and for soda? I would be ordering two of their largest. One for my imaginary friend sitting across from me.

When did Boomberg become a health specialist? We all need some sodium in our system. And for sodas? I don't drink them at all. Yet I too am overweight. I might drink a bottle of carbonated soda or seltzer water with a squirt of lemon about every six months. Does that count as a soda?

We have a zealous mayor in Boston as well. But he hasn't gone as far as Bloomberg yet. His approach is excercise. He has started a bicycle program to get people to ride a bike to work. He is asking the summer programs for kids in the summer to put in more outside active games into their programs. Get the kids moving again. Volley Ball is one of his suggestions. I think it is an excellent idea. We also have a free tennis program for inner city kids.

If you are going to address the obesity program in this country, start where the problem starts. With the kids. Excercise is addictive. Ask any runner. :)
With respect to exercise for the little darlings, there should be a drastic cutback in school busing programs.
Biking to work is fine if you have access to shower facilities but impractical during most inclement (precipitation) weather.
 
With respect to exercise for the little darlings, there should be a drastic cutback in school busing programs.
Biking to work is fine if you have access to shower facilities but impractical during most inclement (precipitation) weather.

No one thing is or has to be a complete solution. Maybe biking to work is one component of a complete exercise program. This approach offers people the option of biking, rather than mandating your actions as in NYC.

If I owned a restaurant in NYC and that law passed, I'd move. I wonder if the legislator who sponsored the salt bill eats all his food prepared with no salt???
 
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