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Old 08-11-2008, 02:25 AM   #11
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don't know if this is true or not but a stockman once told me it was due to the soil they're grown in as well as the variety........and I'm like you....just label them as hot or mild then people won't be disappointed..........I personally love them HOT!!
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:30 AM   #12
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yup, 'twas me who posted such.

stressing has more to do with watering if the heat is there. the plant should actually just begin to go limp or drop some flowers before you water again. the problem is if you go too far it really just dies or takes forever to flower and fruit again.

did you know that a lot of pollen becomes inactive above 90 degrees? veggies like tomatoes just won't pollinate when it's that hot.

my first few years of growing hot peppers weren't very hot, just as many are experiencing. i read about the stress technique, and had subsequent good years of jalapenos, hot cherry, and even red savinas.

this year, we've had a lot of rain, so all of my hot peppers are wimpy.
i'm hoping that by letting them go longer on the plant, they'll get hotter. unfortunately, that darn little pepper weevil is back and is destroying much of my crop. i'm tempted to spray, but i won't. it's not worth adding the chemicals for what's gonna be a wimpy crop anyway.

getting back to the topic: the only other factor could be soil composition, but that gets kinda tricky. you need soil that drains well, in keeping with the watering idea.
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:59 AM   #13
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yup, 'twas me who posted such.

stressing has more to do with watering if the heat is there. the plant should actually just begin to go limp or drop some flowers before you water again. the problem is if you go too far it really just dies or takes forever to flower and fruit again.

did you know that a lot of pollen becomes inactive above 90 degrees? veggies like tomatoes just won't pollinate when it's that hot.

my first few years of growing hot peppers weren't very hot, just as many are experiencing. i read about the stress technique, and had subsequent good years of jalapenos, hot cherry, and even red savinas.

this year, we've had a lot of rain, so all of my hot peppers are wimpy.
i'm hoping that by letting them go longer on the plant, they'll get hotter. unfortunately, that darn little pepper weevil is back and is destroying much of my crop. i'm tempted to spray, but i won't. it's not worth adding the chemicals for what's gonna be a wimpy crop anyway.

getting back to the topic: the only other factor could be soil composition, but that gets kinda tricky. you need soil that drains well, in keeping with the watering idea.
There's a possible organic control for those pepper weevils, Bucky. From ARS Project: SUSTAINABLE AND ORGANIC MANAGEMENT OF SELECTED FRUITS AND VEGETABLES (408493) Annual Report:
Garlic extract reduces pepper weevil infestation of bell peppers: The pepper weevil is a key pest of peppers, and control even with conventional pesticides has not been optimal. In cooperation between the Integrated Farming & Natural Resources Research Unit, Weslaco, TX, and two scientists from Texas A&M University, garlic extract and kaolin particle film were each applied biweekly to field plots of bell peppers in Hidalgo County. Preliminary results suggest that the garlic extract suppressed pepper weevil infestation of pepper fruit as well as the conventional insecticide.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:13 PM   #14
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Texas A&M university has bred some jalapeno's with no heat at all this could be what you bought sad to say I agree what is a pepper with out heat.
I grew some of those from seed a couple of years ago, Dave, thinking that the peppers would have the flavor of a jalapeno without being too hot. Well, there was NO heat at all, and the flavor was exactly like a bell pepper. The peppers were just SHAPED like jalapenos.

Now I just buy one jalapeno plant per year (to make Atomic Buffalo Turds) and, as someone mentioned, the peppers from the same plant vary in heat from mild to OMG!

Weird.

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Old 08-11-2008, 01:35 PM   #15
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Tossed in some Herdez Mexican canned sauce I had in the pantry...
Yup - I too always have some Herdez canned products in my pantry. They're very well made, fresh tasting, & work well as an impromptu salsa, enchilada sauce, or taco topping.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:42 PM   #16
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Use serrano peppers. They taste better anyway.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:56 PM   #17
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Man who knew this thread was here?
Honestly, I need to get glasses.
Thank you all so much.
I'm going to ask an ADMIN to adjust my thread that I just started about my jalepeno's.
You all are soooooooooooooooooooooo knowledgeable.
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I think I read buckytom say somewhere that peppers need to get stressed out (have dry spells I think) to get spicy.....
But who can really believe that guy?
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not me! hahahahah, couldn't resist, he's such a sweetheart, wanted to get him to pay attention
Now I'll be serious.
I just posted about this same thing and KE directed me here.
I hadn't read this. I do remember buckytom saying something about having to shock some type of pepper that should have been hot but wasn't.
I grew mine from seeds from a jalepeno I'd bought that was hotter'en he!!
These though, look just like the prettiest jalepeno's you've ever seen.
But they taste exactly like green bell peppers.
They are in a clay huge pot, on my patio, plenty of water, so probably too much of that, good drainage. Most potting soil, SuperSoil and our dirt that is very much and mostly sandy soil at best.
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Use serrano peppers. They taste better anyway.
I usually do just that they weren't selling at the time. I hope I get better peppers next time.
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:15 PM   #19
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I have also grown jalapenos this year and am finding the ones I harvested today in end September in New ENgland to have some ok heat, however, I've never had so many be duds. I have to only guess that it flowered at a cool time per the earlier post. I used to live in Kansas and the jalapenos there could take your face off. I only have to believe it is because of the warmer temps. Again, just a guess, but thats been my experioence.
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I agree with buckytom, I've grown jalapeno peppers that were so hot they ruined the oil I was making poppers in, the poppers were unedible. It was a dry summer and they didn't have enough water. For me, my opinion is, that they need some dry time and to be watered too (or rained on). That will get you a balanced warm pepper.
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