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Old 02-13-2012, 05:25 PM   #1
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CSI TV series: Entertaining or Laughable?

This came up as off-topic in another thread (about poking holes in meat to let in the marinade) and I thought it might be interesting to pursue it in an appropriate forum area:

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My view of poking at it [meat] with a fork is about like one of the sillier episodes of CSI where they used resin to mold the shape of a knife blade by pouring it into the knife wound. (Maybe it was the technical consultants' day off.) The wounds don't stay open when the instrument is tapered.
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I had to quit watching the show entirely because so much of it is too fanciful, such as your example. Or imagine the top CSI dude driving a Hummer tricked out with red lights and siren... Yeah that's gonna happen...
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We should start a laughing thread about CSI; there is so much nonsense there
I just had to quit watching CSI because so much of the show seemed so patently ridiculous. For example Horatio Caine in the Miiami show driving that tricked out Hummer. Come on! If I were a Miami taxpayer and this was real life I'd be screaming my head off at spending so much money just to drive an investigator to a crime scene. In real life I'm pretty sure CSI personnel would be driving vans or something like that. The boss would probably drive something like a Crown Vic.

And what's with this racing to the scene with red lights and siren? In real life the CSI works on dead people and taking finger prints and vacuuming up trace evidence. There's no need for them to rush to a scene. Crime scenes are secured by police officers until the investigation is completed.

Can you imagine driving along and you see red lights behind, and then you pull over and stop, and the guy gets out of his unit and informs you that he's a crime scene investigator and wants to see your license, registration and proof of insurance? WTH? I'm not a scene!!! If you're a CSI then please go find a scene to investigate!

And what about their main office? It's an architectural show place! What government building did you ever see with all that interior decoration and transparent panels and mood lighting and vast spaces? Real CSI investigators probably often work in basement and sub-basement labs, fluorescent lit and never a hint of sunlight or views outside. I've worked in electronic labs like that, no frills other than the fancy equipment and you could work all day and all night and never know what the weather outside is like or whether the sun is up or down. That's what real life labs look like, not places that could appear in Architectural Digest.

So what do you think about the CSI TV series? I think they're so far off reality that I can't even stand to watch it. I used to be a fan but all the flaws just kept building up until my opinion of the show died the death of a thousand cuts.

I think GLC and Charlie might agree with me. What say the rest of you?

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Old 02-13-2012, 06:20 PM   #2
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I look at it this way: All TV comedy and drama asks you to suspend reality to a lesser or greater extent. Really, which bothers you more, Horatio's Hummer or vampires, ghost whisperers, extra-terrestrials or martial arts that require the suspension of the laws of gravity?

You seem to have focused on the Miami version of CSI. I find that the most objectionable version and stopped watching it years ago. All your comments aside, who ever worked with that many great looking women who dressed in revealing clothes!? Now, THAT'S unbelievable!
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:25 PM   #3
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As I've always said, if we want to watch reality, we can just sit around and look at each other.

Good points, but I still enjoy watching some shows that aren't totally grounded in realism. We spout off now and then about how "that couldn't really happen," etc., but we still enjoy it.
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:34 PM   #4
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As I've always said, if we want to watch reality, we can just sit around and look at each other.

Good points, but I still enjoy watching some shows that aren't totally grounded in realism. We spout off now and then about how "that couldn't really happen," etc., but we still enjoy it.

I absolutely agree. Suzanne sometimes scoffs at the stuff we watch and I remind her, "It's not supposed to be realistic, it's television."
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:45 PM   #5
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Yeah, Andy, I know what you mean about Hummer driving CSI lieutenants vs. vampires and ETs. Maybe my problem is that the CSI stuff is closer to the real reality, and that the vampire/ET stuff is so distant that there's no dissonance with real life. I think some CSI fans may not even realize that much of the CSI technical stuff is bogus. I'm from a scientific occupation and probably know too much about the real technical reality.

I did focus on the Miami CSI but not for any particular reason. Maybe I've seen that one more often than the others. And I want to admit to everybody that I was a CSI fan for years. It's only in the last year or so that I just got fed up.


Actually I'm not getting much enjoyment out of any of the TV shows. I'm in temporary quarters and get only broadcast TV, too much trouble to get cable or satellite for what I hope will be only a few more months, so I'm getting bottom of the barrel TV here. Honestly I'd rather watch a cooking program and forget the comedy/drama stuff.
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:52 PM   #6
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I don't want to sound too critical, but if you get the chance, watch some British Police Drama's. They are very real. The heros aren't perfect, their personal lives are challenging at best, good people die sometimes, people get away, and everybody isn't good looking enough to be models. I can't take the American stuff. I just sit there and yell "AS IF. AHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
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I don't want to sound too critical, but if you get the chance, watch some British Police Drama's. They are very real. The heros aren't perfect, their personal lives are challenging at best, good people die sometimes, people get away, and everybody isn't good looking enough to be models. I can't take the American stuff. I just sit there and yell "AS IF. AHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
I enjoy shows like that as well. I like a balance in what I watch, with some realism, some grounded in reality but not completely realistic, some totally unrealistic but with a slight feel of reality, and once in awhile a little mindless fluff. Too much of any one type takes the enjoyment away for me.
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I guess I can't take the American stuff either. The last few seasons I've found fewer and fewer shows I enjoy. I'll accept there may be better shows on cable/satellite but I don't have that. I'll even accept that the British dramas might be better but I don't get them either.

Another thing, I'm just not enjoying crime fiction or police procedurals lately anyway (TV or print). There's so much crime and violence in the news that it's beginning to turn my stomach, even in fiction. TV crime drama didn't use to be like this. Years ago they couldn't show all the gore and violence and blood and guts. These days crime dramas like CSI probably put a million dollars per episode into special effects gruesomely realistic blood and guts. News and drama are converging on something I'm finding increasingly difficult to stomach. Both of them difficult to watch.

Do the British programs have as much violence and gore?
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Apparently, the primary qualification for criminologists on CSI is a tortured past or a tortured present or both.

And I know how they afford the lab that would shame StarTrek and Google combined. They just never pay their electric bills.

Silly as Bones.
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Yeah, that Bones program is silly too. I think it's more about the characters and their relationships than crime fighting, the latter just providing a framework for the characters to interact within. If I had to watch it or CSI I'd prefer Bones because of the lesser blood, gore and violence (IMO).

I haven't found the clash of TV science vs. real science as bad as CSI but I'll admit I haven't watched Bones for a couple years so I've kind of forgotten the details.
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