I must concurr with those who wonder about the sand cast finish on new Lodge. I have a couple of pieces, and they simply do not perform as well as my collection of vintage pieces. They are hard to clean, and food sticks. If you scrape them, you get shiny cast iron showing through, and the valleys fill with gook If I ever get around to it, I am going to take the new pieces to the garage and attack them with a sander. Yard, and especially those labelled estate, sales, are good sources of cookware, especially cast iron. The fact that there is so much old stuff around attests to it usefulness and long life.