King Arthur's recipe for Sourdough Bread being done in a bread machine is still using yeast.
Does anyone know why?
Does anyone know why?
Sourdough - King Arthur question
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Andy M.
Certified Pretend Chef
No clue.
KA has a "Chat with a Baker" button you can click on for an answer.
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Aunt Bea
Master Chef
I would assume that it’s sort of a belt and suspenders approach.
Old fashioned sourdough starter for tang/flavor and yeast to assure a strong predictable rise.
Old fashioned sourdough starter for tang/flavor and yeast to assure a strong predictable rise.
I suspect "done in a bread machine" is the culprit.
bread machines work on a timer - "starter(s)" do not . . .
as mentioned, potentially starter for flavor and yeast 'to be sure'
perhaps someday AI bread machines will learn 'when it has doubled in bulk' . . . ?
I've had multiple bread machines over the years ( . . . the gift for thems thats got everything already . . . ) and they have all been exiled / gotten rid of . . .
bread machines work on a timer - "starter(s)" do not . . .
as mentioned, potentially starter for flavor and yeast 'to be sure'
perhaps someday AI bread machines will learn 'when it has doubled in bulk' . . . ?
I've had multiple bread machines over the years ( . . . the gift for thems thats got everything already . . . ) and they have all been exiled / gotten rid of . . .
HeyItsSara
Sous Chef
i always make my sourdough with added yeast. i don't have any wild yeast floating around in my NYC apt.
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I did not have a bread machine for many, many years. I would still prefer to do by hand but... the shoulders, elbows, wrist and knuckles say otherwise. Broke down last year and got one - A lot of trial and error but I'm happy with it now.
Had a 'chat' with King Arthur per Andy's suggestion. As said, machines are not programmed for long fermentation hence the added boost from the sour dough.
I made some yesterday but was not a success. Will stick with manual for sourdough at least.
Had a 'chat' with King Arthur per Andy's suggestion. As said, machines are not programmed for long fermentation hence the added boost from the sour dough.
I made some yesterday but was not a success. Will stick with manual for sourdough at least.
HeyItsSara
Sous Chef
but can have it kneaded in there, then let it rise, then cold proof in your fridge for as long as you want to. if you're baking it in your oven, rather than the bread machine, you can do what you like.
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That is pretty much what I did yesterday Sara - didn't rise at all the last time.
I got perfect weighted discs for the Tri-athelon.
I got perfect weighted discs for the Tri-athelon.
just a note . . . .
it was once widely accepted/assumed that "wild yeast floating around" was responsible for the morphing of "yeast1" to "yeast2"
now with DNA testing, it seems the "wild yeast" is not "floating around" but actually a result of yeast spores 'contained' in the flour one uses. basically, yeast floating around in the fields planted/growing "wheat"
<sigh> . . . and 'very difficult' aka 'essentially impossible' for the end user to control.
but however and so forth . . . do note that 'big name' bakeries very carefully control / breed / replicate their yeasts in 'sterile' laboratory conditions to ensure the same flavors/results over time. they don't do "random yeast experiments"
the beer brewers take the same 'extreme' measures -
yeasts make a difference!
