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Old 07-10-2015, 09:46 AM   #21
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Caslon, neither Chief nor I said you go to a butcher store. He said, and I quoted, the phrase "Ask at the butcher shop part of the store". You know, "Meat Department". I shop in modern grocery stores, chain-style stores, and each of their meat departments has real-live, breathing butchers that operate meat saws and grinders and such - whether it is the 3-store chain at the corner or the nearly 100-store grocery chain that is my usual shop. Had you bought your meat there, smiled nicely, and asked politely, I bet you could have gotten a qualified butcher to slice the roast. And before you get any idea that I live in a thriving metropolis, my town has about 11,000 residents. Our daughter lives in a town half that size and even she has access to a major grocery store (Giant Eagle) with a staffed meat department.
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:09 AM   #22
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Sorry, I didn't see that both of you weren't describing a butcher's shop, but rather your butcher at your favorite supermarket.

Another thing I just noticed shopping for my beef jerky meat. More and more cuts of beef are being put out on the shelves at major grocery chains that aren't butchered in the back room. More and more general cuts of beef are set out that are butchered far away, packaged and labeled for sale locally, much like you see when buying lamb roasts that are a product of New Zealand or wherever. Supermarkets are doing less butchering on site now I've noticed...and it's a bit alarming to me. They're relegating to outside companies more and more cuts of beef they used to butcher at the supermarket, including such regular cuts as top round roasts, to far away independent packaging companies. I never saw that before, until just recently.

When I asked the butcher, he could only say..."that's how we get them now...that's how they come to us."

P.S. I'm not talking about just one major chain, but all 3 major supermarket chains in my area.
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Old 07-12-2015, 02:17 AM   #23
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Caslon, that's a bummer! I knew that Wal-Mart started that practice ages ago, and Giant Eagle in OH was getting some pre-packaged meats in the early 2000s, but I didn't know that practice had gone "viral".

We have 7 or 8 different grocery chains within a 25 mile radius of our house. I know for a fact that Price Chopper, Market Basket, Wegmans and the little chain that has a store in our town all have in-house butchers. The butcher for the store in town actually lives about 5 doors up from us! They even grind their own beef in-house - no pre-ground beef there. I guess having this "luxury" in rural Massachusetts makes me thing it's available everywhere.
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Old 07-12-2015, 03:08 AM   #24
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I'm not saying I can't go to the major 3 chain supermarkets and buy a roast that was butchered on site. I'm just noticing that more basic cuts of beef (beef roasts in particular) are now showing up pre-packaged like lamb roasts seen on the shelves. It's not alarming yet, but things are changing.

I used to never see a Top Round roast in other than the foam tray and shrink wrapped that was butchered in the back room. Not anymore to a degree. Things are changing at a few major supermarkets I shop at...like Vons, Ralphs, Safeway, Albertsons (Albertsons is now Haggen stores).
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:28 AM   #25
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To "steer" things back to topic, I'm thinking of using fattier cheaper cuts of beef for my beef jerky. It's not jerky that's gonna last, but I like a bit a fat in my jerky. Jerky that's not meant to last and has some fat in it sure tastes good.
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:59 AM   #26
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The butcher shop I go to has complete animal halves delivered every day from the Midwest. When I lived just a couple of doors from the store in Everett, you would see a large 18-wheeler pull up every morning with a delivery. I don't get there very often today as I am dependent on Spike for a ride. But there have been many times I could ask for a special cut and then have to wait for it to be done. And then there is a shop up the street where I live now. The only drawback is that he can be on the pricey side. We also have a butcher shop down by our police station. They have been there for years. You can still buy a rabbit with the fur on. Most of the butchers there are way past old and will speak only Italian to you. They also make some of their own Italian cold cuts. It has been eons since I have been in that shop. So we still have the butcher shops in this part of the country. You just have to be willing to find them and then go out of your way.
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Old 07-12-2015, 11:48 AM   #27
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We have a couple of butcher shops in the area, but they're quite pricey. I've asked for special cuts at the grocery store meat department occasionally and the butchers are happy to have something different to do other than their everyday work.
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We're lucky to have a Fareway in the area, where they also have real butchers. The only issue I have with them is you buy your meat priced per pound before they cut it up, and if they trim it, they keep the scraps. When I buy a loin there, I take it home as is, and cut it up myself, keeping my own scraps.
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We're lucky to have a Fareway in the area, where they also have real butchers. The only issue I have with them is you buy your meat priced per pound before they cut it up, and if they trim it, they keep the scraps. When I buy a loin there, I take it home as is, and cut it up myself, keeping my own scraps.
I would want my scraps too. OTH, maybe that's the "charge" for cutting it up to your specifications.
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We're lucky to have a Fareway in the area, where they also have real butchers. The only issue I have with them is you buy your meat priced per pound before they cut it up, and if they trim it, they keep the scraps. When I buy a loin there, I take it home as is, and cut it up myself, keeping my own scraps.
I had a butcher like that years ago. An illegal practice here in Mass. I used to make him wrap the scraps up and I would take them home. Fortunately, Spike worked for him in the store, (he was about 12 or so.) so he couldn't say very much. Or I would make him weigh it again with all the trimming gone. Then he could price it. Also, that was when the sales tax came into being here in Mass. You are supposed to tax all the items as group, not individually. I caught him doing that a couple of time and threatened to report him. That practice came to a halt real quick.

I worked in the tax department at the time. I learned a lot just working there.
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