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Old 04-28-2012, 02:24 PM   #221
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:39 PM   #222
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I'm puzzling over something, CWS, and maybe you can enlighten me. About your girls and their services -- I used to have geese, who neatly cropped and ate grass, around fence posts, etc., and just out in the open. However, as I recall, the hens were pickier and just looked for the crunchy beetles or odd worms they could find in the grass -- I don't remember their eating the grass itself. Or am I just forgetting; it's been quite a while.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:42 PM   #223
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I'm puzzling over something, CWS, and maybe you can enlighten me. About your girls and their services -- I used to have geese, who neatly cropped and ate grass, around fence posts, etc., and just out in the open. However, as I recall, the hens were pickier and just looked for the crunchy beetles or odd worms they could find in the grass -- I don't remember their eating the grass itself. Or am I just forgetting; it's been quite a while.
Mine eat grass...they ate nettles last summer, but they have been a bit pickier this spring. And, they LOVE seedlings in the garden--hence, the gardens are fenced and forbidden. Supposedly geese and ducks are better about assisting with bugs in the garden than chickens are...
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Hmmm. Thanks for the update. And good gardening to you.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:39 PM   #225
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I had thought chickens ate seeds and bugs. I never knew they ate any vegetables (e..g. grass or nettles).
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:45 PM   #226
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I had thought chickens ate seeds and bugs. I never knew they ate any vegetables (e..g. grass or nettles).
CWS's chickens wear lovingly handknit coats, ride in the front seat of her car, and are brought into the house on occasion. They will eat whatever she asks them to eat!
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:07 PM   #227
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CWS's chickens wear lovingly handknit coats, ride in the front seat of her car, and are brought into the house on occasion. They will eat whatever she asks them to eat!
Yes but what will CWS tell her chickens when she's hungry for chicken, when she is "the walrus?"
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I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob
(Beatles lyrics, "I Am The Walrus")

What does CWS do when she's hungry for chicken? I suspect none of her egg layers end up on her stove.

I've always thought the song was about inhumane or unacceptable appetites. You can google the lyrics and make your own judgement.

Speaking for myself, I hope I can raise chickens in my next house. I would like to harvest the eggs. I would like to try butchering chickens for meat, although I suspect I might have some problems with that, but you never know until the cleaver comes down on the neck. I have no problem butchering whole chickens from the market, but market chickens don't twitch and don't bleed. If I can't stomach that then at least I can "egg them on."

I forgot to add, you need to understand Lewis Carroll's poem The Walrus and the Carpenter which appeared in his Through the Looking Glass (AKA Alice in Wonderland) to understand the predatory emphasis that I imply in "being the walrus." You can google that too. I often wonder, do our cows and pigs and chickens think that we are being nice to them by feeding them? I often think, "no, we are the walrus, we eat you." We are feeding you because you will be bigger and fatter and tastier when we kill you and eat you.

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"He ate more than the Carpenter, though," said Tweedledee. "You see he held his handkerchief in front, so that the Carpenter couldn't count how many he took: contrariwise."

"That was mean!" Alice said indignantly. "Then I like the Carpenter best—if he didn't eat so many as the Walrus."

"But he ate as many as he could get," said Tweedledum.

This was a puzzler. After a pause, Alice began, "Well! They were both very unpleasant characters—"
Yes I know there are many interpretations including as an indictment on capitalism. I like to think that Lewis Carroll many years in his grave would love that we are still talking about him, still debating what his literary creations meant.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:49 AM   #228
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Who'd a' thunk a poultry thread would touch on such erudition!

As to butchering a hen, I have deeply buried memories of my country aunt after having seperated a chicken from its head, throwing it under a galvanized tub so that it wouldn't spray blood everywhere as it ran around, and hearing it thump against the sides. Ah, childhood. Pardon me while I put the lid back on that box.
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Who'd a' thunk a poultry thread would touch on such erudition!

As to butchering a hen, I have deeply buried memories of my country aunt after having seperated a chicken from its head, throwing it under a galvanized tub so that it wouldn't spray blood everywhere as it ran around, and hearing it thump against the sides. Ah, childhood. Pardon me while I put the lid back on that box.
We used to just let it run amok. One time I got to chop the head off. Oddly enough, I didn't mind doing it. But I had the mind of a farm kid then. I also didn't get upset when we took the pigs to the butcher in Truro. That is what farm animals are raised for. To eat. We never named them. You only name championship bred animals that are going to be sold.

I remember when some of the 4H kids I worked with, they would bring their champion bulls to the Westeren Washington Fair for the sole purpose of being sold for their blood line. The money they got went to pruchase feed for their next animal project. These were animals that they helped deliver, bottle fed and raised by hand by the child. The animal was registered in their name as the owner. Sometimes the kid was worth more than their father. The ranch or farm might be deeply in debt, but some parents charged their child rent for the animal. Remember, farming is a business and the child was a partner in the endeavor. Until they sold it, the farm provided the food for it. And you don't let a champion out into the field or pasture. He might get frisky with the girls. One girl sold her bull for $25,000.00. She cried for a whole day. I refused to pamper or console her. She knew what the consequences were when you sell an animal. You turn your back and say goodby.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:19 AM   #230
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I got the girls specifically for eggs. If they ever get broody, I will raise some chicks for meat...but, you can bet I won't be naming those...and with the high price of gasoline, getting a couple of lambs to "graze" in the backyard is getting very tempting. They would be butchered in November, with 2 more purchased next spring for the same purpose--to cut the costs to mow the lawn and to put some meat in the freezer. No names given to the lambies either.
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