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ronjohn55
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Happy Chop Suey Day?
There's a joke there, but I don't want to offend any cat owners....
John
There's a joke there, but I don't want to offend any cat owners....
John
licia
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I've never had chop suey.
ronjohn55
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ronjohn55 said:Happy Chop Suey Day, do you know where your cat is?
John
I'm so surprised that chop suey is a joke to some people. Here in Hawaii, chop Suey and chow mein is often eaten. (no, it does not contain cat meat).
What could symbolize Chinese cooking more than chop suey and chow mein? Even people who steer away from more exotic Asian fare have enjoyed these two dishes at one time or another.
What goes into making these two popular restaurant dishes? Chop suey consists of vegetables and a gravy, while chow mein is a noodle and vegetable combination. Chow mein noodles are usually made with wheat flour, egg and water. Italian pastas such as fettucini make a good substitute if you don't have proper chow mein noodles on hand. Both chow mein and chop suey normally contain meat or fowl, although there are also vegetarian versions.
Of the two, chow mein is considered to be the more authentic Chinese dish. Food historians generally agree that chop suey as we know it was invented in the United States in the mid-1800's, possibly by one of the Cantonese immigrants who flooded California searching for work. Constrained by the lack of Asian vegetables, and trying to produce a Chinese dish palatable to westerners, a Cantonese cook stir-fried whatever vegetables were handy, added some meat or chicken, and served the finished product on a plate of steamed rice. He christened his creation, chop suey, which is the English pronunciation of the Cantonese words "tsap seui" ("tsa-sui" in Mandarin) which means "mixed pieces".
A variation of the story credits a Japanese chef with inventing chop suey in an effort to appease a visiting general. As it was too late in the evening to prepare a proper meal, the chef simply threw together some leftovers and chop suey was born. In this version the dish was originally called Lee Gone Chop Suey, named after General Lee Hon Chung, the man who inspired its creation.
Entertaining as these stories are, the origins of chop suey may actually lie in the countryside of southern China. According to anthropologist E.N. Anderson, the idea of combining leftover vegetables and noodles into a single, stir-fried dish originated in Toisan, a rural area south of Canton. Since many of the original immigrants to the United States were from this region, they naturally prepared the type of food they were familiar with.
The historical background of chow mein is far less mysterious. Ciao Mein or "fried noodles" originated in Northern China. While the chow mein served at take-outs and many American Chinese restaurants is designed to appeal to western tastes, it is based on an authentic Chinese dish. Until recently, our perceptions of Chinese food were based on early Chinese immigrants, who came primarily from the Canton (Guangzhou) region in southern China. Since they ate rice, we assumed all Chinese eat rice. However, wheat and not rice is the staple crop in the north. So, in a way you can say that chop suey and chow mein represent northern and southern styles of Chinese cooking.
In the Kitchen
Besides being easy to make, both these dishes are very adaptable. Like all Chinese food, what makes chop suey and chow mein memorable is not the specific ingredients so much as the balance between grains and vegetables. I often make them when I want to clean out the refrigerator before the vegetables go stale.
While it's preferable to have a wok, both these dishes can be made in the frying pan.
What could symbolize Chinese cooking more than chop suey and chow mein? Even people who steer away from more exotic Asian fare have enjoyed these two dishes at one time or another.
What goes into making these two popular restaurant dishes? Chop suey consists of vegetables and a gravy, while chow mein is a noodle and vegetable combination. Chow mein noodles are usually made with wheat flour, egg and water. Italian pastas such as fettucini make a good substitute if you don't have proper chow mein noodles on hand. Both chow mein and chop suey normally contain meat or fowl, although there are also vegetarian versions.
Of the two, chow mein is considered to be the more authentic Chinese dish. Food historians generally agree that chop suey as we know it was invented in the United States in the mid-1800's, possibly by one of the Cantonese immigrants who flooded California searching for work. Constrained by the lack of Asian vegetables, and trying to produce a Chinese dish palatable to westerners, a Cantonese cook stir-fried whatever vegetables were handy, added some meat or chicken, and served the finished product on a plate of steamed rice. He christened his creation, chop suey, which is the English pronunciation of the Cantonese words "tsap seui" ("tsa-sui" in Mandarin) which means "mixed pieces".
A variation of the story credits a Japanese chef with inventing chop suey in an effort to appease a visiting general. As it was too late in the evening to prepare a proper meal, the chef simply threw together some leftovers and chop suey was born. In this version the dish was originally called Lee Gone Chop Suey, named after General Lee Hon Chung, the man who inspired its creation.
Entertaining as these stories are, the origins of chop suey may actually lie in the countryside of southern China. According to anthropologist E.N. Anderson, the idea of combining leftover vegetables and noodles into a single, stir-fried dish originated in Toisan, a rural area south of Canton. Since many of the original immigrants to the United States were from this region, they naturally prepared the type of food they were familiar with.
The historical background of chow mein is far less mysterious. Ciao Mein or "fried noodles" originated in Northern China. While the chow mein served at take-outs and many American Chinese restaurants is designed to appeal to western tastes, it is based on an authentic Chinese dish. Until recently, our perceptions of Chinese food were based on early Chinese immigrants, who came primarily from the Canton (Guangzhou) region in southern China. Since they ate rice, we assumed all Chinese eat rice. However, wheat and not rice is the staple crop in the north. So, in a way you can say that chop suey and chow mein represent northern and southern styles of Chinese cooking.
In the Kitchen
Besides being easy to make, both these dishes are very adaptable. Like all Chinese food, what makes chop suey and chow mein memorable is not the specific ingredients so much as the balance between grains and vegetables. I often make them when I want to clean out the refrigerator before the vegetables go stale.
While it's preferable to have a wok, both these dishes can be made in the frying pan.
Thanks Wasabi!
I LOVE chop suey, I didn't realize there was a day for it though. Darn being on the mainland
When is it Sub Gum day?
I LOVE chop suey, I didn't realize there was a day for it though. Darn being on the mainland
When is it Sub Gum day?
Maidrite
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Wasabi Happy Chop Suey Day Right Back at You and a Hug To Boot !
And have a "MAIDRITE DAY "!
And have a "MAIDRITE DAY "!
-DEADLY SUSHI-
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Well how does one celebrate? Is there a tree to decorate?
Corinne
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I never really knew what Chop Suey was. Up here in New England when people say Chop Suey they mean "American Chop Suey" - nothing more than ground beef, spaghetti sauce, & elbow macaroni. Blah!!
Blah!!
bijoubrown
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I also like chop suey and I haven't had it for a very long time. I will have to go with some of my friends and have some.
Thanks wasabi
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