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Old 06-07-2012, 06:44 PM   #51
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I don't use tomato when I make beef stroganoff. I do, however, use sour cream. I also only use homemade beef stock. It isn't something I make often, but in the winter, it tended to be one of my "go to" recipes when I used to get a side of beef every fall. Charlie--potato soup is easy to make, I'm surprised you don't have a recipe for it since you make so many interesting dishes!
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:09 AM   #52
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The mouth feel of creamy potato soup is very little like that of sour cream, even if you ignore the fact that sour cream tastes sour and potato soup doesn't.

However there is no official or standard Beef Stroganoff recipe. Anybody is free to do their own interpretation of this or any other recipe, and the only really important thing is that they and their guests enjoy whatever was served.
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Actually mixture of cream and potato soup sound interesting for me, becasue of kashrut issues. I may have to try it. Of course first i would have to learn how to make potato soup.
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Sounds like a chowder to me.

Seeeeeya; Chief Longwind of the North
the french have been making it for ever - vichyssoise - traditionally served chilled.
@greg:guess you could substitute the cream with sour cream?
@charlie:there ya go & ditto
@chief:it does doesn't it?
i still wouldn't put it anywhere near a stroganoff,but,at least,we can all now debate whether THIS recipe is authentic.....lovin' it!
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:42 AM   #53
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I don't use tomato when I make beef stroganoff. I do, however, use sour cream. I also only use homemade beef stock. It isn't something I make often, but in the winter, it tended to be one of my "go to" recipes when I used to get a side of beef every fall. Charlie--potato soup is easy to make, I'm surprised you don't have a recipe for it since you make so many interesting dishes!
Potato soup is very American, I am not big on pureed soups. Though I should really make it becasue my wife likes it.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:44 AM   #54
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... we can all now debate whether THIS recipe is authentic.....lovin' it!
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Speaking of debating. The original poster is long gone, but have been at it for 5 pages and 54 posts.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:01 PM   #55
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Speaking of debating. The original poster is long gone, but have been at it for 5 pages and 54 posts.
where'd 'e go then..........!
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:32 PM   #56
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There's no need for the OP to comment on his/her topic as long as everybody who participates is enjoying the discussion. Perhaps the OP got the answer they were looking for.
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I bet he did. One can write a decertation about Beefstrogonoff, after reading all our posts.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:34 PM   #58
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What I gather is nobody posting believes there is an original recipe.
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What I gather is nobody posting believes there is an original recipe.
Clearly, this dish is not a 'single point of origin' type recipe. However, prior to modern times with the advent of canned soups, the recipe had a basic list of ingredients most agreed to: tender beef, sour cream, onion, mushrooms. Seasonings vary beyond the foundation ingredients.

So, at least in my mind, those four ingredients are necessary for a dish to be considered beef stroganov.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:54 PM   #60
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What I gather is nobody posting believes there is an original recipe.
Probably more to the point, there was an original recipe but nobody now knows what it was because it has been lost in history.

I think the article in Wikipedia is interesting and is worth reading, but of course Wikipedia is not an authoritative source.

I have reserved a book mentioned in the Wikipedia article's footnote:

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Joyce Toomre, ed., Classic Russian Cooking: Elena Molokhovets' A Gift to Young Housewives, 1992; first edition of Molokhovets was 1861; the 1912 recipe mentioned be Toomre is in Alekandrova-Ignat'eva
I'm sure it will be interesting and their Beef Stroganoff recipe is probably as authentic as anybody else's.
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