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Old 10-01-2014, 07:43 PM   #731
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archie bunker was obviously wrong with many of his views on things like race and gender. he was supposed to be a mirror to certain factions of the american public.
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:44 PM   #732
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now, the smothers brothers had some real cajones, constantly thumbing their noses at the fcc.
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:59 PM   #733
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i wonder if anyone today would have a problem with ralph kramden's perpetual threat of hitting his wife alice whenever he became frustrated by her?

i can see the protests already.
Not only now, but then too Bucky. My Dad wouldn't have "The Honeymooners" on our TV because of the way that jerk treated Alice. I think Jackie Gleason was probably a jerk in real life too.
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:12 PM   #734
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actually he was supposed to be a great guy. when i first started in television 27 years ago, the older directors and producers that i worked with/for were the young guys back in jackie gleason's day. and ernie kovacs, and lucille ball, and all of the stars of 50's and 60's tv.

they said gleason was a real gentleman and always treated everyone with respect right down to the facilities people (janitors). he would even invite the entire crew and their families to his house every summer for a bbq.

try to picture someone like david letterman doing that today.
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:11 PM   #735
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Interesting info BT...
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:27 PM   #736
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i wonder if anyone today would have a problem with ralph kramden's perpetual threat of hitting his wife alice whenever he became frustrated by her?

i can see the protests already.
About the same number of folks who would get after me for threatening to smother Shrek in his sleep.
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:49 PM   #737
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Just saying that people would have fits over hearing me say that as they do hearing Ralph Kramden.
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Old 10-02-2014, 12:03 AM   #739
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i never thought it was funny when he said that, having seen friends' moms being beaten, shortly before they were as i ran away.

other stuff gleason said or did was funny.
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I think that they put that chair of Archie's in some museum in Washington DC.
The Smithsonian has both Edith's and Archie's chairs.
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