I'm cooking an old round steak I just found in the freezer yesterday . Making Green Thai Curry Beef with jasmine rice tomorrow. Greg, I would be glad to get together sometime though. Actually, after I get my pit, me, Kevin, and Dallas (the Northcoast BBQ Society) are going to get together at a nuetral site to do a dry run on our comp cooking skills. We are going to set up the awning, tent, etc. Stay out all night and drink/cook. Probably the second / third weekend in May. Would you like to be our fourth member? Think about it. We are doing two cooks next summer. July 22/23 in Grand Rapids Mi, and October in Nelsonville. Woody