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Research by nutritionist Carol S. Johnston of Arizona State University East in Mesa suggests one easy measure that might have a notable impact: Consume more vinegar.
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A few tablespoons of vinegar prior to a meal—such as part of an oil-and-vinegar salad dressing—could benefit people with diabetes or at high risk of developing the disease.
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Her studies indicate that 2 tablespoons of vinegar before a meal—perhaps, as part of a vinaigrette salad dressing—will dramatically reduce the spike in blood concentrations of insulin and glucose that come after a meal. In people with type 2 diabetes, these spikes can be excessive and can foster complications, including heart disease
In Johnston's initial study, about one-third of the 29 volunteers had been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, another third had signs that they could become diabetic, and the rest were healthy. The scientists gave each participant the vinegar dose or a placebo to drink immediately before they ate a high-carbohydrate breakfast consisting of orange juice, a bagel, and butter. A week later, each volunteer came back for the opposite premeal treatment and then the same breakfast. After both meals, the researchers sampled blood from the participants.
Once ingested, carbohydrates—sugars and starches—can quickly break down into glucose that builds up in a person's blood (see The New GI Tracts). That's why people with diabetes frequently have to severely curb their carb intake. High-carbohydrate meals also prompt hunger to return earlier than low-carb meals do. Indeed, such observations spawned the low-carb diet craze (see Counting Carbs).
Although all three groups in the study had better blood readings after meals begun with vinegar cocktails, the people with signs of future diabetes—prediabetic symptoms—reaped the biggest gains. For instance, vinegar cut their blood-glucose rise in the first hour after a meal by about half, compared with readings after a placebo premeal drink. In contrast, blood-glucose concentrations were only about 25 percent better after people with diabetes drank vinegar. In addition, people with prediabetic symptoms ended up with lower blood glucose than even healthy volunteers, after both groups drank vinegar.
In these tests, vinegar had an effect on volunteers' blood comparable to what might be expected from antidiabetes drugs, such as metformin, the researchers reported last January in Diabetes Care. A follow-up study has now turned up an added—and totally unexpected—benefit from vinegar: moderate weight loss.
Both findings should come as welcome news during this season when sweet and caloric treats taunt diabetics, who face true health risks from indulging in too many carbs.
In a pickle
Why vinegar? A nutritionist, Johnston was looking for possible diet modifications that would make meals less risky for people with diabetes. While reviewing research published earlier by others, she ran across reports from about 2 decades ago that suggesting that vinegar limits glucose and insulin spikes in a person's blood after a meal.
A few research groups had conducted limited follow-up trials. For instance, Johnston points to a 2001 paper in which researchers at Lund University in Sweden evaluated pickles—cucumbers preserved in vinegar—as a dietary supplement to lower the blood-sugar rise in healthy people after a meal. The Swedish team, led by Elin M. Östman, reported that pickles dramatically blunted the blood-sugar spike after a high-carb breakfast. Fresh cukes didn't.
"I became really intrigued," Johnston says, because adding vinegar to the diet would be simple "and wouldn't require counting how many carbs you ate." t first, she attempted to replicate findings by others, focusing specifically on people with diabetes or prediabetic symptoms.
When these individuals showed clear benefits from vinegar after a single meal, Johnston' group initiated a trial to evaluate longer-term effects. It also explored vinegar' effect on cholesterol concentrations in blood. The Arizona State scientists had hypothesized that by preventing digestion of carbs in the stomach, vinegar might cause carbohydrate molecules to instead ferment in the colon, a process that signals the liver to synthesize less cholesterol.
So, in one trial, Johnston had half of the volunteers take a 2-tablespoon dose of vinegar prior to each of two meals daily for 4 weeks. The others were told to avoid vinegar. All were weighed before and after the trial.
As it turns out, cholesterol values didn' change in either group. To Johnston' surprise, however, "here was actually about a 2-pound weight loss, on average, over the 4 weeks in the vinegar group." In fact, unlike the control group, none in the vinegar cohort gained any weight, and a few people lost up to 4 pounds. Average weight remained constant in the group not drinking vinegar.
Johnston would now like to repeat the trial in a larger group of individuals to confirm the finding, but that study is currently on hold.
Why? To no one's astonishment, the study volunteers didn't like drinking vinegar straight—even flavored, apple-cider vinegar. Indeed, Johnston says, "I would prefer eating pickled foods or getting . . . vinegar in a salad dressing." Now, the scientists are developing a less objectionable, encapsulated form of vinegar and testing its efficacy. Although there are commercially available vinegar dietary supplements, Johnston notes that they "don't appear to contain acetic acid," and based on studies by others, she suspects that's the antidiabetic ingredient in the vinegar.
 
Many old medicine men have told of the virtures of vinegar...I have heard this around many council fires for many many years...No scientific evidence to back it up...Yet.

Chief Uncle Bob
 
Vinigar (acetic acid/ethanoic acid) is simply an oxidised alcohol, it`s also packed with calories too (no, Seriously it is!) Glacial acetic acid is just as flamable as ethanol (pure booze).

so it`s either something to do with Other "Contaminants" in the vinigar, or there`s something about taking in this "Fuel" that and apperatif would do also, or it`s not actualy Factual.
 
Heinz website says 34 calories in 1 cup apple cider vinegar....My bottle says Zero calories in 1 tlb spoon....Old medicine man says he who drinks cup of vinegar have bigger problem than to worry about 34 calories.
 
Cider vinegar has been long known for many different curative powers (among many of us that study herbal treatments and/or old home remedies)....weight loss, help with arthritis and many other things. It would be great if it is proven to help with pre-diabetes!!
 
All these studies and opinions need to be proven..I'd advise anyone thinking about using them,who is diabetic or has it run in their family, to see an endocrinologist and discuss this with them. Those of you already on meds, please do not stop your meds to try this..There are meds that help stop the spiking by slowing down the output from the liver..Also a nice 6 block walk will help keep you blood glucose down after meals, so will precose..so will limiting carbs or spacing them out over the day..
I'm all for studies to help diabetics, but please before you try any one of these and that includes the cinnamon one..Talk to an endo.

kadesma
 
Shunka said:
Cider vinegar has been long known for many different curative powers (among many of us that study herbal treatments and/or old home remedies)....weight loss, help with arthritis and many other things. It would be great if it is proven to help with pre-diabetes!!
That would be wonderful Shunka. But until it is, if diabetes is in the family already, then we need to exercise, cut carbs, and if overweight, start losing..That will get us on the road to better health and maybe avoiding diabetes..
kadesma:)
 
Also important to note that (OK I'm speaking for myself here) when making soup we often put some apple cider vinegar in with some carcasses to leach the calcium out of the bones. Soooo...if you have osteoporosis, think carefully before trying this out.
 
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Good point Alix, that one didn't come to mind as I was responding. Thanks that is important to remember.

kadesma
 
Yes folks, dont stop taking your meds. because of this article. :ermm: I have been looking into this vinegar thing for awhile. Many Chinese take it on a daily basis for health. But the big drug makers havent said anything about this as proven yet.
 
the evidence against vinegar may outweigh its benefits....i'm diabetic so am seeking the truth....thanks to all....rickardo
 
Apple cider vinegar is also an aphrodisiac, men only it seems. I used to take two tablespoons a day mixed with juice, energized the heck out of me. After meals of course, don't want to take anything that acid on an empty stomach. Had some of my buddies taking it as well and they swore by it, until we discovered BaJi down in chinatown and then *that* ship sailed. ACV is a lot cheaper though and great for working out, maybe I'll start using it again in the fall.
 
Don't stop taking your doctor's advice. But here's a Wikipedia piece on the glycaemic index. Search for vinegar in the document

Glycemic index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On a lighter note, vinegar works a treat in washing machines... Cheaper than anti-lime treatments, better for your laundry than fabric softener. Mind you, you start looking in Google and it looks like vinegar could solve all the world's problems!
 
Thank you DS for that article. My DH is Type 2. I will print this off and let him read it.
 
I just want to know what would happen

Okay friends, I just want to know what would happen if you have diabetes and still do Cocaine. It’s one of my friends. He doesn't know for sure if he has diabetes or not; he's going to have it checked out soon. But he's been on Cocaine so much. I want to know so I can tell him and persuade him it quick with the drugs. Alcohol and other drugs- what is the effect when you have diabetes.
 
Welcome to DC Katrinafransisco!! Other than the obvious re cocaine, can't help you there but alcohol is sugar, and is obviously not good for diabetics.
 

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