My youngest daughter has been getting these nose bleeds since she was a year old. I have taken her to the doctor for it but, he didn't seem too worried. Last night she woke up at 4 in the morning crying. I went to check on her to see what was wrong, her whole entire face was covered in blood and was all over her sheets. It usually happens at night, which sounds very weird but, during the day when she gets them she can just be sitting and her nose will start bleeding. By the doctor not sounding to worried and as many as she is getting and the anount a blood comming out of her nose is staring to be very scary to me. One time she had an episode and lasted for 10 min.(literally) This will happen for a couple of days to a week and then she won't have any for a long time. I don't know what to do. Should I listen to the doc and just blow it off and keep wiping her nose everytime she gets one or what? I have mixed feelings about htis and not quite sure what to do?
my baby and her nose bleeds
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middie
Chef Extraordinaire
at night try propping her head up a little more.
and i'd think about getting a second opinion.
once my son got really sick with a high fever.
e.r doctor told me not to worry but you know
that mother's intuition kicked in. i made an
appointment with a pediatrician for the very
next day. that's when we found out he had
asthma. always always ALWAYS go
with your mother's intuition. sometimes mom's
know more than doctors. especially when it
to their own children.
and i'd think about getting a second opinion.
once my son got really sick with a high fever.
e.r doctor told me not to worry but you know
that mother's intuition kicked in. i made an
appointment with a pediatrician for the very
next day. that's when we found out he had
asthma. always always ALWAYS go
with your mother's intuition. sometimes mom's
know more than doctors. especially when it
to their own children.
SizzlininIN
Master Chef
Def. don't ignore it Nicole.........this isn't exactly normal. I'd stress to the doctor I want further testing.
Just to let you know my hubby gets these every so often and he's had them since he was a kid......he's 41 now. His are due to his allergy to milk. The thing is he can eat foods cooked with milk in them........like mac and cheese, mashed potatoes, etc... But he can't drink a glass of milk, eat ice cream, etc. His nosebleeds vary. If he goes against common sense and eats the ice cream he knows he's going to face not only the nose bleed but also a fever. Where as most of the time its just the nosebleed itself, which comes without warning. So you may consider requesting an allergy test to rule out any allergies which may be causing it.
Just to let you know my hubby gets these every so often and he's had them since he was a kid......he's 41 now. His are due to his allergy to milk. The thing is he can eat foods cooked with milk in them........like mac and cheese, mashed potatoes, etc... But he can't drink a glass of milk, eat ice cream, etc. His nosebleeds vary. If he goes against common sense and eats the ice cream he knows he's going to face not only the nose bleed but also a fever. Where as most of the time its just the nosebleed itself, which comes without warning. So you may consider requesting an allergy test to rule out any allergies which may be causing it.
Sounds like a vitamin K deficiency - vitamin K is essential to help clot the blood.
I would definitely insist upon a second opinion from a doctor to be on the safe side.
Here's a quote on vitamin K:
Many of the features of common chronic disorders, especially connective tissue disorders, are identical to the symptoms of vitamin K deficiencies. Is this a coincidence, or could vitamin K deficiencies be an often overlooked factor in many disorders currently attributed to genes or other causes?
I've been diagnosed with a variety of overlapping inherited connective tissue disorders that all have bleeding problems as symptoms, yet all of my bleeding problems stopped when I changed my diet to get more vitamin K. I've been to many doctors throughout my life, including a hematologist, for my bleeding problems, yet I was never tested for a vitamin K deficiency. I learned about vitamin K from nutrition books and doing my own research on the Internet. It does make me wonder how many other people there are who have bleeding problems caused by an undiagnosed vitamin K deficiency, an easily correctable condition.
Note: High vitamin K intake can interfere with anticoagulant medication. Remember to check with your doctor before making any diet or supplement modifications, especially if you are on anticoagulants.
I would definitely insist upon a second opinion from a doctor to be on the safe side.
Here's a quote on vitamin K:
Many of the features of common chronic disorders, especially connective tissue disorders, are identical to the symptoms of vitamin K deficiencies. Is this a coincidence, or could vitamin K deficiencies be an often overlooked factor in many disorders currently attributed to genes or other causes?
I've been diagnosed with a variety of overlapping inherited connective tissue disorders that all have bleeding problems as symptoms, yet all of my bleeding problems stopped when I changed my diet to get more vitamin K. I've been to many doctors throughout my life, including a hematologist, for my bleeding problems, yet I was never tested for a vitamin K deficiency. I learned about vitamin K from nutrition books and doing my own research on the Internet. It does make me wonder how many other people there are who have bleeding problems caused by an undiagnosed vitamin K deficiency, an easily correctable condition.
Note: High vitamin K intake can interfere with anticoagulant medication. Remember to check with your doctor before making any diet or supplement modifications, especially if you are on anticoagulants.
PA Baker
Master Chef
Since it's winter and the heat's on, is your house dry? Try putting a small humidifier in her bedroom and seeing if that helps. Nasal passages can dry out easily and cause bloody noses.
Do get a second opinion, too, though! Like Middie said, always listen to monther's intuition!
Do get a second opinion, too, though! Like Middie said, always listen to monther's intuition!
GB
Chief Eating Officer
I am going to parrot what the others are saying. Do not ignore it. Insist that you want the doctor to check it out since it is not normal for someones nose to just start bleeding for no reason. If he won't look into it further than find a new doctor. Like middie said, your mothers intuition should be listened to.
PA, I do have a humidifier in her room ever since the first one she ever had. Middie, I was going to go with my intuition, i just didn't want to be one of those moms who freaks out if theres nothing really to worry about. Im definatly going to call the doc. TODAY and get her in asap. Thanks for all the information everyone.
kitchenelf
Chef Extraordinaire
nicole said:
A mother worries about everything until there is a satisfactory answer that she, and she alone, accepts. If, after a second opinion, they still don't know exactly what it is then maybe you can attribute it to the blood vessels in her nose being very close to the surface and during winter months being more prone to bleeding. She might be bothering her nose in her sleep too - which, if it's already irritated, will cause it to bleed.
Let us know what you find out and don't let anyone tell you you are worrying over nothing. It's your child, which is SOMETHING!!!
DampCharcoal
Executive Chef
I vote for a second opinion too. If you still can't get any satisfactory explanation I'd take her to the emergency room. Not raising an alarm at all, it's just that hospitals have much more diagnostic equipment than the family physician. Just an idea and hope things get better for the little one.
kitchenelf
Chef Extraordinaire
The second opinion needs to come from a specialist - not just another GP.
DampCharcoal
Executive Chef
Very good point, Elf.
Bangbang
Executive Chef
I would take her to another doctor. She should be tested to find the cause.
Check this site out
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/n/nosebleeds/underly.htm
Check this site out
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/n/nosebleeds/underly.htm
You guys thanks so much. I called the doctor and said that if she couldn't get intoday that I was going to get another look at it elsewhere. well, he said that it looks infected but, that doesn't excuse the nosebleeds for a year. She has a cream i can put in her nose for 10 days then she is seeing a nose ear and throat Doc. The MD. said she will probable have to have her nose caderized ( sorry about the spelling). 
marmalady
Executive Chef
Nicole, don't ever worry about that 'intuition' thing; and don't ever worry about the 'every little thing'. You're the mom. YOU - drive the care of your family, not the doc. If you're not satisfied with the answers you're getting, go somewhere else.
Nosebleeds in toddlers are NOT the norm. It may in fact be something very minor, but you're not going to know until somebody who's really qualified checks it out. I'm glad you're taking her to see an ENT, a specialist in 'ear, nose and throat'.
While we're on the subject, this is good advice for everyone here. We as a population have to get over the 'doctor as god' image. We all have to drive our own care, and represent ourselves as part of a health care team, not lemmings who blindly follow someones' advice when it may seem contrary to our own 'instincts'.
I've had more experience with the health care profession both as an employer and as a family member, especiallly with my son's accident and resulting spinal cord injury six years ago. We've had some top notch care for him, but we've also had care I wouldn't wish on my pets. I could tell you stories about the times I've gone head to head with 'know it all' ER personnel or nursing staff, because they weren't dealing with an issue I knew was important.
On the other hand, the docs we've found who have accepted that we're a knowledgeable part of a team have been a dream to work with.
Trust yourself; do your research; and take care of that cutie!
Nosebleeds in toddlers are NOT the norm. It may in fact be something very minor, but you're not going to know until somebody who's really qualified checks it out. I'm glad you're taking her to see an ENT, a specialist in 'ear, nose and throat'.
While we're on the subject, this is good advice for everyone here. We as a population have to get over the 'doctor as god' image. We all have to drive our own care, and represent ourselves as part of a health care team, not lemmings who blindly follow someones' advice when it may seem contrary to our own 'instincts'.
I've had more experience with the health care profession both as an employer and as a family member, especiallly with my son's accident and resulting spinal cord injury six years ago. We've had some top notch care for him, but we've also had care I wouldn't wish on my pets. I could tell you stories about the times I've gone head to head with 'know it all' ER personnel or nursing staff, because they weren't dealing with an issue I knew was important.
On the other hand, the docs we've found who have accepted that we're a knowledgeable part of a team have been a dream to work with.
Trust yourself; do your research; and take care of that cutie!
Thanks Marma, Me and my husband butt heads when it comes to this doctor. He has been Joes doc since his first child was born wich was 9 years ago. Me, i still go to My family doc. Wich is 30 min away from me. I would prefer her to see my Doc but, thats a long story.. anyway, I hope the ENT specialist will answer my questions and sit there with me as long as it takes to get those answers. My husband thinks im crazy sometimes when it comes to my daughters health but, this little girl is my first child and I would never want to ignore something that doesn't make sence to me. You guys are so great to sit here and read and give advice. Thanks for giving me strength. I owe to all of you.
Lugaru
Sous Chef
Im glad your getting that second opinion. I had a LOT of nosebleeds as a child up until I was 5 or 6 but that was because of the dry heat and my inhumanly large nostrils (I inherited the family nose) so my nose would get dry and cracked a lot.
Edit: btw if that turns out to be the problem one of those air humidifiers might do the trick. Hope it's that easy.
Edit: btw if that turns out to be the problem one of those air humidifiers might do the trick. Hope it's that easy.
