How are you feeling now about..

[Cooking Goddess]

To date...by following the guidelines in all instances, still not even one case of Covid-19 in our facility. We just finished our second round of mandatory testing of 20% of employees and residents.

 

[Andy M.]

Hats off to you PF and the facility admins.

 

[Linda0818]

Thank you for explaining your comment Linda. I know everyone is really tired of all of it, but you have the good sense that many others don't when they say they are just done with it by throwing caution to the wind. I'm sick to death of people who just don't give a rat's a$$ anymore.

I'd like to be that way - either uncaring or apathetic - but, in good conscience, I can't.

I personally believe that many people never cared to begin with; never took it serious. They are the people putting everyone else in danger. The spring-breakers, the protestors, the ones who believe it couldn't happen to them...

Again, I was just venting. I didn't mean I'm done practicing safety.

 

[Cooking Goddess]

Oldvine, I hope your sister's OK and you guys can get together soon.

...since this virus is so new, they're learning more about it every day...

I'm not a scientist, but I am a pragmatist. You know what I wish would have happened? That the U.S. (and everywhere else) would have followed the Taiwan protocol. At first signs of trouble, everyone put on masks when in public. Period. No fuss from the citizens; they've seen this movie before with SARS. Coming into the country from somewhere else? Here, let us put you up in a hotel room and deliver daily meals while you wait out the incubation period. Well, in Taiwan YOU pay for the room for the two weeks. Maybe I'd rather be quarantined in Cypress, or Australia...

Our niece is married to a man born in Taiwan who moved to FL when he was 16. As is tradition in the Asian culture, the eldest son is responsible for the care of his elder parents when the time comes. They moved to Taiwan about a half-dozen years ago. She was hesitant to move without first doing an exploratory trip to make sure she could adapt. Three weeks let her know she could handle the culture shift. Now, all these years later, I'm not sure if she'll ever return to the U.S. after her inlaws are gone, even though her own folks live here.

 

[GotGarlic]

I'm not a scientist, but I am a pragmatist. You know what I wish would have happened? That the U.S. (and everywhere else) would have followed the Taiwan protocol. At first signs of trouble, everyone put on masks when in public. Period. No fuss from the citizens; they've seen this movie before with SARS. Coming into the country from somewhere else? Here, let us put you up in a hotel room and deliver daily meals while you wait out the incubation period. Well, in Taiwan YOU pay for the room for the two weeks. Maybe I'd rather be quarantined in Cypress, or Australia...

Our niece is married to a man born in Taiwan who moved to FL when he was 16. As is tradition in the Asian culture, the eldest son is responsible for the care of his elder parents when the time comes. They moved to Taiwan about a half-dozen years ago. She was hesitant to move without first doing an exploratory trip to make sure she could adapt. Three weeks let her know she could handle the culture shift. Now, all these years later, I'm not sure if she'll ever return to the U.S. after her inlaws are gone, even though her own folks live here.

Yeah. Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. Asian people have a much more community-focused society than the United States, where "my rights" and "my freedom" are more important to a lot of people than caring about their neighbors' well-being. And our current national "leadership" encourages that attitude. I wish we could have done that, too, but I don't think it's possible in the current environment.

 

[Linda0818]

Yeah. Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. Asian people have a much more community-focused society than the United States, where "my rights" and "my freedom" are more important to a lot of people than caring about their neighbors' well-being. And our current national "leadership" encourages that attitude. I wish we could have done that, too, but I don't think it's possible in the current environment.

Yeah, I agree. I think we're waaaaaaaay beyond that now. And it's only getting worse.

What I'm afraid of is another shutdown/lockdown, since the numbers in some areas appear to be rising. Our country really can't afford for that to happen again. Texas has already started shutting bars and restaurants back down again. Or at least limited capacity at restaurants. Not certain what the very latest is.

 

[Cooking Goddess]

Yeah. Wishful thinking, I'm afraid...I wish we could have done that, too, but I don't think it's possible in the current environment.

Yeah, I agree. I think we're waaaaaaaay beyond that now. And it's only getting worse...

Yup, that horse and his a$$ are well out of the barn by now.

For all my complaining about living in MA, I have to say I feel safe up here. The OH governor did a good job managing the crisis, too, so I would have been good at home. Better, actually, because I would have been seeing our kids...from a socially responsible distance, of course. When it comes to my health and the health of those I care about, I'd definitely a play-by-the-rules person.

Wash your hands! Keep your distance! Wear your mask!

 

[Linda0818]

Yup, that horse and his a$$ are well out of the barn by now.

For all my complaining about living in MA, I have to say I feel safe up here. The OH governor did a good job managing the crisis, too, so I would have been good at home. Better, actually, because I would have been seeing our kids...from a socially responsible distance, of course. When it comes to my health and the health of those I care about, I'd definitely a play-by-the-rules person.

Wash your hands! Keep your distance! Wear your mask!

Yes, DeWine did a decent job, I'll agree. And even though restaurants are opening back up, I'm still not comfortable with going in and sitting down. My son and I get takeout occasionally, mostly from our favorite Chinese place, and we've ordered pizza a couple of times. But I don't think I'm ready yet to go into a public gathering. And I really miss going out to eat. But... it will have to wait.

 

[Andy M.]

I feel safe in Massachusetts too. Our governor has done an excellent job. Now, if we could only build a wall around the state. . .

 

[PrincessFiona60]

Guidelines for our Farmer's Market which is opening next week:

SAFETY GUIDELINES. For Your Protection, Please observe the following:
· The market asks that you do not touch products but rather allow vendors to hand products to you, especially unpackaged produce.
· Masks are optional. Please maintain a 6’ distance between your family group and the next.
· Hand Sanitizer will be available for customers at all vendor booths. Please use it as you move through the market.
· Please observe the following payment policies at my booth:
o I will NOT handle your cash or checks, since I will be handling your food. Show me your cash or check and I will have you drop it into a bucket.
o I will make change using bills that I have had in my possession for at least one week. No 50’s or 100’s will be changed.
o Credit Cards: YOU MAY ONLY USE A CC IF YOU ALLOW ME TO SIGN AN “X” FOR YOU. This way, you will not handle my phone. After I handle your card, I will sanitize my gloves.
· THANK YOU for helping the market and the vendors provide a healthy, welcome place for you to obtain local foods and products this summer! The Market looks forward to a terrific season with you. Please help us keep the market open all summer by following the guidelines. If guidelines change, I will let you know.

 

[Kayelle]

Guidelines for our Farmer's Market which is opening next week:

SAFETY GUIDELINES. For Your Protection, Please observe the following:
· The market asks that you do not touch products but rather allow vendors to hand products to you, especially unpackaged produce.
· Masks are optional. Please maintain a 6’ distance between your family group and the next.
· Hand Sanitizer will be available for customers at all vendor booths. Please use it as you move through the market.
· Please observe the following payment policies at my booth:
o I will NOT handle your cash or checks, since I will be handling your food. Show me your cash or check and I will have you drop it into a bucket.
o I will make change using bills that I have had in my possession for at least one week. No 50’s or 100’s will be changed.
o Credit Cards: YOU MAY ONLY USE A CC IF YOU ALLOW ME TO SIGN AN “X” FOR YOU. This way, you will not handle my phone. After I handle your card, I will sanitize my gloves.
· THANK YOU for helping the market and the vendors provide a healthy, welcome place for you to obtain local foods and products this summer! The Market looks forward to a terrific season with you. Please help us keep the market open all summer by following the guidelines. If guidelines change, I will let you know.

All of those good sense precautions and masks are OPTIONAL?

 

[PrincessFiona60]

All of those good sense precautions and masks are OPTIONAL?

Wyoming is opening up. Goshen County, where I live, has had 4 cases of Covid-19 and those were recorded a month ago, no new cases since. I wear a mask at all times outside my house and yard. I keep one in a baggie in my back pocket in case someone approaches. Have been eating in a restaurant that keeps things on track with current guidelines.

 

[Whiskadoodle]

Grand daughter /grand son's daily admit to day care: arrive. You stay in your car. Staff member comes and removes each kid from their car seat. Walk's them in the door. Temp check, remove street shoes, wash hands, put on indoor/ school shoes, then allowed to enter into main room(s).

Gdtr has been taking a dance class with maybe a half dozen other kids until noon daily, then off to day care for a late start. Same/ similar precautions before starting dance. So she gets 2 admission rounds daily. Both parents are home, one work from home, one laid off, transportation is not an issue.

We were (note past tense) invited to a dance class wrap up. Who wouldn't want to see their 5 y/o's first dance recital. A day or so before, we are Un-invited. Too many grandparents/ spectators in possibly too small space?? Over-sold too many free tickets, Ticket Scalpers are running amok among the young. Who knows, Jr didn't or wouldn't say. Just parents could go. We got it all on face book video afterward. A half hour- un-edited. I'm thankful Gdtr had fun and am thinking nice thoughts.

 

[GotGarlic]

The farmers market in my town has moved from city property to a church parking lot so they can require more stringent safety measures. Everyone must wear a mask and maintain social distancing. Hand sanitizer and gloves are provided. I'm not sure how they're handling selection and payment - I haven't been there in months, but each vendor handles the payments for their goods.

 

[taxlady]

Maybe this will encourage more contactless payment options and hopefully make it easy to pay people who receive payments using a phone, rather than a fancy terminal.

 

[Kayelle]

I'd like to be that way - either uncaring or apathetic - but, in good conscience, I can't.

I personally believe that many people never cared to begin with; never took it serious. They are the people putting everyone else in danger. The spring-breakers, the protestors, the ones who believe it couldn't happen to them...

Again, I was just venting. I didn't mean I'm done practicing safety.

I get your point Linda, although I don't believe for a second that you'd really like to be someone who is uncaring or apathetic. I think of the generations before us who sacrificed so much for the good of this country, and the undisciplined and spoiled young people of today who are responsible for wheels coming off. I'm venting right along with you friend.

 

[Linda0818]

I get your point Linda, although I don't believe for a second that you'd really like to be someone who is uncaring or apathetic. I think of the generations before us who sacrificed so much for the good of this country, and the undisciplined and spoiled young people of today who are responsible for wheels coming off. I'm venting right along with you friend.

No, I don't want to be uncaring. That would be no way to live life.

I noticed your comment about the masks being optional at Fiona's Farmer's Market. It's the same way here in Ohio. Masks are not mandatory, unless an individual business owner makes them that way. In fact, I'm seeing fewer and fewer people wearing them. Several weeks ago, everyone was masked. Now it's maybe 35-40%, at best. Less than half.

 

[PrincessFiona60]

Google OSHA on masks. I only wear one due to the restrictions from my facility. If I did not work where I do, I would not wear one.

 

[Linda0818]

I purchased my mask from a neighborhood lady who has been making them since the beginning. It's a cloth mask that's well made and it fits pretty snug. I know the cloth masks are not optimal, but I'm hoping it's better than nothing, especially since I use a filter in mine.

I'm guessing another reason fewer people are wearing masks right now is because of the hot weather. Those masks are hard to breathe in as it is. Coupled with the heat, it's just plain miserable. The second I hit the parking lot, I'm ripping that thing off my face.

Besides that, we're doing ok here in Ohio, as far as I know. Not as bad as some other states.

 

[GotGarlic]

Google OSHA on masks. I only wear one due to the restrictions from my facility. If I did not work where I do, I would not wear one.

Okay, I did. This is part of one page I found. As far as I can tell, OSHA guidance for employees tracks with CDC guidance for the general public.

"OSHA generally recommends that employers encourage workers to wear face coverings at work. Face coverings are intended to prevent wearers who have Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) without knowing it (i.e., those who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic) from spreading potentially infectious respiratory droplets to others. This is known as source control.

"Consistent with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommendation for all people to wear cloth face coverings when in public and around other people, wearing cloth face coverings, if appropriate for the work environment and job tasks, conserves other types of personal protective equipment (PPE), such as surgical masks, for healthcare settings where such equipment is needed most.

"Employers have the discretion to determine whether to allow employees to wear cloth face coverings in the workplace based on the specific circumstances present at the work site. For some workers, employers may determine that wearing cloth face coverings presents or exacerbates a hazard. For example, cloth face coverings could become contaminated with chemicals used in the work environment, causing workers to inhale the chemicals that collect on the face covering. Over the duration of a work shift, cloth face coverings might also become damp (from workers breathing) or collect infectious material from the work environment (e.g., droplets of other peoples' infectious respiratory secretions). Workers may also need to use PPE that is incompatible with the use of a cloth face covering (e.g., an N95 filtering facepiece respirator).

"Where cloth face coverings are not appropriate in the work environment or during certain job tasks (e.g., because they could become contaminated or exacerbate heat illness), employers can provide PPE, such as face shields and/or surgical masks, instead of encouraging workers to wear cloth face coverings. Like cloth face coverings, surgical masks and face shields can help contain the wearer's potentially infectious respiratory droplets and can help limit spread of COVID-19 to others.

"Note that cloth face coverings are not considered PPE and cannot be used in place of respirators when respirators are otherwise required.

"Learn more about cloth face coverings on the CDC website."

https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/covid-19/...gical,when respirators are otherwise required.

I hope you're not referring to the thing going around on Facebook where someone who says they're OSHA-certified claims that masks don't work to prevent the spread of Covid-19 because blah blah blah, bunch of irrelevant stuff. I trust infectious disease specialists, public health experts and epidemiologists before some random person on Facebook.